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I have never seen anyone use a single barrel shotgun in CAS competition. I am sure there were a goodly number of "Back Door Guns" used in defensive situations in days gone by and I was wondering if anyone else has seen a single barrel used in the same manner as a double would be used?
I know the speed and time would be longer but in many situations shooters are using '97s single loaded and except for the fast first couple shots an experienced shooter could hold his/her own with one.
ZVP
 
A 97 can be loaded over the top still shoulder mounted much faster than a double could be loaded much less a single barrel.
 
Single shot shotguns are the most overlooked portion of a cowboy shoot.

Sure, the '97, '87 their Italian and Chinese knock-off brethren, or the occasional Marlin, Spencer or Burgess are what most shooters want to take- after all, you'll either be labeled crazy to show up with a single barrel, or just not serious about the sport.

Although I don't think I'd be any contender at all, nor would I want to be...but I learned a long time ago to be proficient with a single barrel. :)

I believe there were more feller armed with the single shots than all the repeaters put together historically. At least, most fellers couldn't afford a repeating shotgun- and even if they could, it was likely the Spencer- it hit the market in 1882-1883 time frame, nearly five years before the Winchester 1887,

I wouldn't try it with an 1885 Winchester in 20 gauge, but something with an ejector (which, I don't know if it is "official" rules or not) but my club allows it.
 
I use a '97, load 2 rounds at a time and am faster with the scattergun than any one in my area. The secret is to use a pouch for the shotgun cartridges that holds 6 rounds in three pouches. Two rounds together base up. Pick up the gun with the left hand holding it with the ejector port up, drop in one cartridge, slide the forearm forward and load the next round from the bottom.
with practice this can be done almost in one motion. When you shoot thetwo rounds it can almost sound like one shot. Bring the slide back, turn the port up and repeat with the next two rounds.
 
CAS is a game that evolved to be what it is.No point to argue it.No complaint.I think the movie "LongRiders",was very interesting in the way it showed the common single barrel in action.
IMO,"The Spirit of The Game",history and all,should embrace the single break shotgun.
But,then,if it did,all the used single shots in USA would be bought up,the barrels would be sawed off,and a part of firearms history,and a cheap shotgun,would be gone.

There are not so many 97 duck guns left.
But,its OK they are being used and enjoyed in CAS
 
I am glad that someone besides me is curious about the single barrel shotgun. I have had mine for years and have been thinking of cutting it down and try to shoot it real fast :). Some day I might actually get a chance to compete, if I can get over my performance anxiety :eek:. I'm sure if you show up with a single and do the best you can, it might start a trend ;).
 
You don't need a short barrel for CAS and most shooters cringe at the thought of chopping off original barrels.
 
My shotgun is a 12 gauge NEF Pardner I bought new about 15 years ago. I am thinking about taking the barrel down to 20 inches, have a new bead installed, thread the barrel for a removable choke tube (then recrown), and reshape the stock. It has always set in the corner of the bedroom, just in case. Now, with a few changes, I will take it out to the back yard and have some fun with it :).
 
i gave more than one guy a fit by chopping off my 28" mod barreled 97 to 21 inches. makes it just right, lol bobn
 
Is why I have this 20 inch Norinco 97.:D
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I am evaluating CAS shotguns as well, but when I get mine I want it to double as a home defense gun. I have heard people mention reliability issues with the 97. Would I be better off with an SxS or if well maintained, would a 97 be fine for a home defense weapon?
 
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I have heard people mention reliability issues with the 97.
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Maybe on an original with worn parts but a well maintained original is very reliable as is my Norinco. The action on the Norinco was a little stiff out of the box but slicked up very nicely.

I wouldn't trade my old mod 37 .12 for nothin'.
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Don't doubt that but the thread is about CAS guns and the 37 isn't CAS legal.
 
I have a Norinco 97 and Ive fired hundreds of shells through it without any issues.It did need some breaking in when I first got it but thats to be expected with a brand new gun.Ive used to it to shoot clays before and it was surprisingly effective and I keep it loaded with 00 Buck for home defense.
 
Why not??

Respectfully Hawg Haggen, why would my Winchester mod.37 single bbl. not be legal for CAS? You've got me a little curious :confused::confused:
 
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