The Peterborough Examiner is in Ontario, Canada, but does not have an on-line version.
It would be a MAJOR RKBA coup if they rescinded the law, but in true bureaucratic fashion, they will try to bluff it out. (see story at end of this article).
Let's hope that "whiff of panic" clings like Pepe LePhew's fragrance.
Check out the www.lufa.ca site. It's worth a $20 membership to help these guys out. M.O.s
would be better than checks due to clearance problems. Yeah, the Canadian dollar is at 69c (or so), so the $20 US would help out even more. Better to stop 'em up north than down here.
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Canadian gun owners are banding together to form a organization to be arrested together en masse for civil disobedience).
Thoreau lives! Not in the United States, but in Canada. Gun owners there understand that no government has the right to take away self-protection. While the government wants to get rid of guns, people have decided not to become victims. This is a story that is worth watching. I remember speaking to a group in Orange County, California several years ago. The name of the group was "Future Felons of America". They were making a statement that under no circumstances would they register their guns or give them up.
While this story is from April 30, 2000, I just received it from Rob Ross of Florida.
Publication: Peterborough Examiner Date: April 30, 2000
By-line: Gary Ball
Column: "Slow gun registration panicking Ottawa"
Excerpt from Column: It seems that Ottawa has realized, way too late, that it may be facing massive civil disobedience over firearm registration. Canada and the United States, learned sad lessons about bad laws during Prohibition. Is Ottawa worried about the same sort of situation with firearms? Is that what the panic's about? Bruce Hutton, a former Mountie from Rocky Mountain House, Alberta, heads the Law-Abiding Firearms Association (LUFA), which he says has 16,000 members across Canada.
Two LUFA meetings in Ontario that I'm aware of drew about 400 gun owners, many willing to sign up at $20 a head. There were about 300 at a Sudbury meeting and about 100 in Apsley, north of Peterborough. Hutton and LUFA say, in a published plan, that they are advocating non-registration, non-compliance, civil disobedience. "When the first member of LUFA is arrested or charged, we will appoint his legal counsel. Then 10 or 20 or 30,000 of us will go into RCMP detachments across this country and tell them we have unregistered firearms without a licence."
LUFA's website ( www.lufa.ca ) says. "This is an indictable offence so they will have to investigate.
The RCMP doesn't have the manpower to handle it and the court system is already plugged. They will not be able to handle the load. We will also ask for legal aid as we are not financially capable of paying our lawyers' fees. We can tie the courts up forever."
Yes, indeed, there's a whiff of panic in the air around the Department of Justice and the Canadian Firearms Centre.
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Wednesday, April 26, 2000
MP says Ottawa may spend millions to save gun control program
Cites pilot project
Richard Foot
National Post, with files from Southam News
Thirteen federal bureaucrats spent $20,000 over two days last year convincing 105 Newfoundland gun owners to licence themselves and register their rifles under Canada's new gun control law.
The campaign last July in New Perlican, Nfld., was a pilot project of the Canadian Firearms Centre, whose officials are searching for ways to persuade Canada's estimated three million gun owners to get licensed and register their guns.
The new Firearms Act requires gun owners to be licenced by the end of this year. Because only 540,000 Canadians are licensed so far, the government plans to hold similar compliance campaigns -- or what it prefers to call outreach programs -- across the country over the next nine months.
Garry Breitkreuz, a Canadian Alliance MP who obtained documents detailing the cost of the Newfoundland pilot program, says a national outreach program could add an extra $500-million to the cost of implementing Ottawa's new gun control system -- a system whose price tag has already risen from a targeted $85-million to more than $300-million.
In Newfoundland last year, federal firearms officials spent $19,782 over two days publicizing their outreach program and assisting 105 gun owners to fill out gun registration forms. The cost of registering and licensing each "client," says a federal document, amounted to $188.
"The whole thing is crazy," says Dennis Young, a member of Mr. Breitkreuz's staff. "They've said repeatedly that all the costs of this registry will be recovered from firearms owners. Well, obviously that isn't the case."
David Austin, a spokesman for the firearms centre, says this year's national outreach program might be very different from the one tried in Newfoundland. Therefore, its costs are impossible to predict.
Mr. Austin says the government hopes to fix the fact that many licence applications now coming in are filled with errors, adding to the expense of the registration effort.
But Mr. Breitkreuz says gun owners may be making the errors on purpose in an effort to sabotage the federal firearms registry.
Mr. Breitkreuz said while he has no proof gun owners are undermining the new system, it is possible because of the high feelings over the issue.
"There are some that are so fed up with it that they would just like it to go away and might want to sabotage it, but I have no evidence of that," he said.
A firearms owner from Edmonton anonymously telephoned a newspaper reporter in Ottawa last week and warned of possible sabotage to the gun registry.
The caller, who was familiar with the details of the new Firearms Act and knew leading figures for firearms groups in Canada, suggested gun owners are planning to anonymously forward thousands of licence and registry applications containing false information.
Mr. Austin, however, dismissed the speculation the errors were intentional.
"Sometimes on the forms, people are having difficulty, making errors as simple as ... signing in the wrong spot," he said.
"There is nothing to indicate that anybody is deliberately going out of their way to send in incorrect information."
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It would be a MAJOR RKBA coup if they rescinded the law, but in true bureaucratic fashion, they will try to bluff it out. (see story at end of this article).
Let's hope that "whiff of panic" clings like Pepe LePhew's fragrance.
Check out the www.lufa.ca site. It's worth a $20 membership to help these guys out. M.O.s
would be better than checks due to clearance problems. Yeah, the Canadian dollar is at 69c (or so), so the $20 US would help out even more. Better to stop 'em up north than down here.
"Source: received via e-mail from the cybershooters website
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a394174492e2f.htm#1
Canadian gun owners are banding together to form a organization to be arrested together en masse for civil disobedience).
Thoreau lives! Not in the United States, but in Canada. Gun owners there understand that no government has the right to take away self-protection. While the government wants to get rid of guns, people have decided not to become victims. This is a story that is worth watching. I remember speaking to a group in Orange County, California several years ago. The name of the group was "Future Felons of America". They were making a statement that under no circumstances would they register their guns or give them up.
While this story is from April 30, 2000, I just received it from Rob Ross of Florida.
Publication: Peterborough Examiner Date: April 30, 2000
By-line: Gary Ball
Column: "Slow gun registration panicking Ottawa"
Excerpt from Column: It seems that Ottawa has realized, way too late, that it may be facing massive civil disobedience over firearm registration. Canada and the United States, learned sad lessons about bad laws during Prohibition. Is Ottawa worried about the same sort of situation with firearms? Is that what the panic's about? Bruce Hutton, a former Mountie from Rocky Mountain House, Alberta, heads the Law-Abiding Firearms Association (LUFA), which he says has 16,000 members across Canada.
Two LUFA meetings in Ontario that I'm aware of drew about 400 gun owners, many willing to sign up at $20 a head. There were about 300 at a Sudbury meeting and about 100 in Apsley, north of Peterborough. Hutton and LUFA say, in a published plan, that they are advocating non-registration, non-compliance, civil disobedience. "When the first member of LUFA is arrested or charged, we will appoint his legal counsel. Then 10 or 20 or 30,000 of us will go into RCMP detachments across this country and tell them we have unregistered firearms without a licence."
LUFA's website ( www.lufa.ca ) says. "This is an indictable offence so they will have to investigate.
The RCMP doesn't have the manpower to handle it and the court system is already plugged. They will not be able to handle the load. We will also ask for legal aid as we are not financially capable of paying our lawyers' fees. We can tie the courts up forever."
Yes, indeed, there's a whiff of panic in the air around the Department of Justice and the Canadian Firearms Centre.
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This site has some good related links.
Bold italics mine.
Wednesday, April 26, 2000
MP says Ottawa may spend millions to save gun control program
Cites pilot project
Richard Foot
National Post, with files from Southam News
Thirteen federal bureaucrats spent $20,000 over two days last year convincing 105 Newfoundland gun owners to licence themselves and register their rifles under Canada's new gun control law.
The campaign last July in New Perlican, Nfld., was a pilot project of the Canadian Firearms Centre, whose officials are searching for ways to persuade Canada's estimated three million gun owners to get licensed and register their guns.
The new Firearms Act requires gun owners to be licenced by the end of this year. Because only 540,000 Canadians are licensed so far, the government plans to hold similar compliance campaigns -- or what it prefers to call outreach programs -- across the country over the next nine months.
Garry Breitkreuz, a Canadian Alliance MP who obtained documents detailing the cost of the Newfoundland pilot program, says a national outreach program could add an extra $500-million to the cost of implementing Ottawa's new gun control system -- a system whose price tag has already risen from a targeted $85-million to more than $300-million.
In Newfoundland last year, federal firearms officials spent $19,782 over two days publicizing their outreach program and assisting 105 gun owners to fill out gun registration forms. The cost of registering and licensing each "client," says a federal document, amounted to $188.
"The whole thing is crazy," says Dennis Young, a member of Mr. Breitkreuz's staff. "They've said repeatedly that all the costs of this registry will be recovered from firearms owners. Well, obviously that isn't the case."
David Austin, a spokesman for the firearms centre, says this year's national outreach program might be very different from the one tried in Newfoundland. Therefore, its costs are impossible to predict.
Mr. Austin says the government hopes to fix the fact that many licence applications now coming in are filled with errors, adding to the expense of the registration effort.
But Mr. Breitkreuz says gun owners may be making the errors on purpose in an effort to sabotage the federal firearms registry.
Mr. Breitkreuz said while he has no proof gun owners are undermining the new system, it is possible because of the high feelings over the issue.
"There are some that are so fed up with it that they would just like it to go away and might want to sabotage it, but I have no evidence of that," he said.
A firearms owner from Edmonton anonymously telephoned a newspaper reporter in Ottawa last week and warned of possible sabotage to the gun registry.
The caller, who was familiar with the details of the new Firearms Act and knew leading figures for firearms groups in Canada, suggested gun owners are planning to anonymously forward thousands of licence and registry applications containing false information.
Mr. Austin, however, dismissed the speculation the errors were intentional.
"Sometimes on the forms, people are having difficulty, making errors as simple as ... signing in the wrong spot," he said.
"There is nothing to indicate that anybody is deliberately going out of their way to send in incorrect information."
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The New World Order has a Third Reich odor.
[This message has been edited by Oatka (edited June 09, 2000).]