Dennis Olson
New member
Here is the latest of Elissa's ingorant statements:
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"Guns are used exponentially more in self defense (to save a life and prevent crimes) than they do to commit crimes."
Nonsense. Check uniform crime statistics from FBI and get back to me.
"So, you really think good citizens should be denied the right to carry a gun (which is most often the only effective means of protection for most people)? Will this really reduce the number of criminals who have illegal guns?"
Yes actually it will. Sixty percent of guns used in crime are stolen from I suppose the "good" people.
"Blaming guns is just an excuse for people not to accept responsibilty."
Once again, no one is blaming guns. Guns are innanimate objects. The availability of guns is in our control, hence we are to blame. Understand?
"This country has operated fine for many years with all people carrying guns."
Let us try and concentrate on the present. Muskets are not the same as a rapid fire machine gun. The population is 100 times what it used to be, the comparison to times gone by is not sound. Look, I agree with you, if we had a sane world with sane people, with full employment and cigars for everyone, I would not care about gun AVAILABILITY.
We do not, till we get there, cannot we better control a tool that people are misusing?? Is this so radical?
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Woould someone better versed than I in the ACTUAL stats PLEASE post them for her (and the others)? This woman is in COMPLETE denial of reality.
The thread link:
http://www.msmagazine.com/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000255.html
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"Guns are used exponentially more in self defense (to save a life and prevent crimes) than they do to commit crimes."
Nonsense. Check uniform crime statistics from FBI and get back to me.
"So, you really think good citizens should be denied the right to carry a gun (which is most often the only effective means of protection for most people)? Will this really reduce the number of criminals who have illegal guns?"
Yes actually it will. Sixty percent of guns used in crime are stolen from I suppose the "good" people.
"Blaming guns is just an excuse for people not to accept responsibilty."
Once again, no one is blaming guns. Guns are innanimate objects. The availability of guns is in our control, hence we are to blame. Understand?
"This country has operated fine for many years with all people carrying guns."
Let us try and concentrate on the present. Muskets are not the same as a rapid fire machine gun. The population is 100 times what it used to be, the comparison to times gone by is not sound. Look, I agree with you, if we had a sane world with sane people, with full employment and cigars for everyone, I would not care about gun AVAILABILITY.
We do not, till we get there, cannot we better control a tool that people are misusing?? Is this so radical?
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Woould someone better versed than I in the ACTUAL stats PLEASE post them for her (and the others)? This woman is in COMPLETE denial of reality.
The thread link:
http://www.msmagazine.com/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000255.html