can someone explain why I shoot left with one pistol and right with another?

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herbie1

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Recently I have acquired a CZ75b and a Glock 26. Both have factory set fixed sights.

With the CZ I can shoot a 1" group off-hand at 30 ft. but it will be consistently an inch high and RIGHT.

With the Glock I can shoot a 1" group off-hand at 30 ft. but it will be consistently an inch high and LEFT.

If I concentrate enough I can bring both of the to center target, but I am a little bothered by the fact that I have to shoot differently depending on which gun I am shooting.

Is this normal? Do I have to get adjustable sights to fix this issue?

BTW, I think I can rule out flinching. I 'Skip fire" (load one round) with my revolvers quite often and I think I have a pretty good feel for how to handle pistol recoil.

Next I think I will mix live and dummy rounds and see where that gets me. I am not too confident that this will do anything since I already do quite a bit of dry-firing and skip firing.



thanks.

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They're "fixed sights" that are fixed for the "average" person. No one is average, we're all different. You have two different guns from two different manufacturers. I would be very surprised if they shot "right on" for you or for most people. Fixed sights by their very nature are only designed to be very close to center when fired by the majority of shooters. Every gun I ever bought needed to be sighted in for me to be able to hit center. If you absolutely need to hit dead center (assuming you are capable of doing that on a consistant basis) you are either going to have to modify the fixed sight or get adjustable sights for the gun. Most people I know who have fixed sights on a gun don't expect it to be a target gun. For self defense work being off by one inch is acceptable for most people. I myself am an accuracy freak and have adjustable sights on all my handguns.
 
I think it would be the placement of the finger on the trigger. Try pushing your finger further in (if right handed) if you are shooting left -or -sliding the finger out if your are shooting right.

Push your finger toward the direction you want to shoot.

SLIGHTLY
 
Does this mean that you can zero a pistol in a Ransom Rest, give it to two different shooters and each one may shoot it differently?
 
Rudy, he means the bullets tend to be to the right on the target with one gun and to the left with the other. He wasn't referring to using his right and/or left hands to shoot with.
 
Does this mean that you can zero a pistol in a Ransom Rest, give it to two different shooters and each one may shoot it differently?
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That is exactly what it means. Different dominant eye, different arm length, different hands, different ways of pulling the trigger, one eyed shooter will be a little different from the 2 eyed shooter. Nobody focuses the same way, especially if you bull gaze and the next guy concentrates on the front sight and the next guy is a snap shooter and the next one holds for 12 seconds before the shot goes off.

I have one brother and the neighbors boy who shoot to the same point of aim as I do with my guns, most people will be high, low, left, right its hard to tell but they will consistently be that way and to shoot to point of aim they would have to adjust the sights. My other brothers are up to 4" up and left of where I shoot at and when I shoot their guns I shoot low right. Scope the guns and we are at the same point.
 
The trigger is different on both guns. The grip is also different. Remember, the front sight mustn't move until after you hear bang.
 
The CZ-75 in DA mode has one of the longest lengths of pull (the distance from the trigger surface to the grip backstrap) out of all standard autopistols. To get larger, you need a Coonan/Grizzly/DesertEagle with the super-deep magazine well.

However: in SA mode, the length of pull is shorter than a Glock.

The Glock, on the other hand, is engineered to fit the lowest common denominator in law enforcement. It's designed to be shoot-able for a 5' 1" female police officer with fingers that would be dwarfed by great-big-man-hands if put palm to palm.

With the CZ I can shoot a 1" group off-hand at 30 ft. but it will be consistently an inch high and RIGHT.

With the Glock I can shoot a 1" group off-hand at 30 ft. but it will be consistently an inch high and LEFT.
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The CZ, right handed, I'd expect you to shoot left for DA shots and right for SA shots.

And the Glock, right handed, I'd expect you to shoot slightly right, but a bit more left than SA shots from the CZ.

The cure?

Pull the trigger STRAIGHT back, with meat of your trigger finger firmly put on the flat on the trigger. No lateral tension either left or right. Make certain that your grip of the pistol is secured high into the webbing of your hand, and centered. Having it poorly balanced/centered from behind will adjust where the bullet goes as the recoil impulse begins, just like how bullet weight will make a bullet go higher/lower for a given caliber.

I suspect you are "slapping" the trigger (cranking it right, into your wrist) with the CZ, and massaging it sideways (left) with the Glock.
 
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