I love the looks and design of these NcStar scopes ( http://www.ncstar.com/product/product-detail.aspx?GroupNo=152&ModelNo=SRTR432G) but as they are mostly for .223 rifles. I am not sure if they will work for a 308 I plan to buy sometime this year. Is there some sort of mathematical way to use the .223 ballistics reticle for the .308 ballistics? Or IAS there some other version I of these scopes other than Trijicon?
Can I use this scope on a .308 bolt action???
- Thread starter shinwa98
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Mobuck, please explain why that ninth word tells why so ignorant readers like me will understand, too.
Yes, there is a mathematical way to convert the scope. Find out what bullet and muzzle velocity it leaves at for a given environment then learn what .308 bullet you want to use at a muzzle velocity that closely matches the reticule for drops at some ranges. While complicated, it can be done. Start with a bullet for each caliber with the same muzzle velocity and BC then see if that velocity can be done from a .308.
Yes, there is a mathematical way to convert the scope. Find out what bullet and muzzle velocity it leaves at for a given environment then learn what .308 bullet you want to use at a muzzle velocity that closely matches the reticule for drops at some ranges. While complicated, it can be done. Start with a bullet for each caliber with the same muzzle velocity and BC then see if that velocity can be done from a .308.
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In my opinion NcStar isn't worth buying.
Save your money.
Put a quality glass on the rifle.
RE: Centerpoint.
It's a $69.95 glass from Walmart.
It's o.k., even good, on a .22, or an airgun.
But why put an inexpensive glass on a good rifle?
It's beyond me why a shooter would put cheap glass on a centerfire
rifle.
I have 3 Centerpoint scopes, all on .22 rifles. If they go south I'm only out the time invested in target shooting or perhaps small game.
No way I'd put cheap glass on a centerfire rifle. It sin't even worth messing up a trip to the range.
Just my opinion, not trying to be insulting in any way so please don't
be offended where no offense is meant.
For new shooters please understand that airguns require a glass built different from those used on centerfire rifles.
I ordered an airgun scope from an online retailer U din't notice they sent the wrong model scope. I put it on an expensive spring airgun and the 3rd shot blew out the crosswire which lay on the bottom of the tube.
I sent it back, they appoligized, sent a new proper glass for the airgun.
Save your money.
Put a quality glass on the rifle.
RE: Centerpoint.
It's a $69.95 glass from Walmart.
It's o.k., even good, on a .22, or an airgun.
But why put an inexpensive glass on a good rifle?
It's beyond me why a shooter would put cheap glass on a centerfire
rifle.
I have 3 Centerpoint scopes, all on .22 rifles. If they go south I'm only out the time invested in target shooting or perhaps small game.
No way I'd put cheap glass on a centerfire rifle. It sin't even worth messing up a trip to the range.
Just my opinion, not trying to be insulting in any way so please don't
be offended where no offense is meant.
For new shooters please understand that airguns require a glass built different from those used on centerfire rifles.
I ordered an airgun scope from an online retailer U din't notice they sent the wrong model scope. I put it on an expensive spring airgun and the 3rd shot blew out the crosswire which lay on the bottom of the tube.
I sent it back, they appoligized, sent a new proper glass for the airgun.
Blindstitch
New member
Although I know almost nothing about NcStar my wife wanted to get me a new scope for my 30-30 for christmas. I told her I wanted something 3x9 and showed her a rack of scopes at cabelas. A month later somehow this thing appeared.
I googled it and there were bad reviews everywhere and some that said they're only good for 22's or air guns.
Reluctantly I bolted it to my rifle and went to the range. Once zeroed it stayed zeroed so I have no regrets. Just like using Tasco, Bushnell and Simmons products. And yes I know they're the same company.
Sometimes I wonder what some of you guys would do if you found yourself in the wilderness with a cheap bolt gun and tasco scope. Probably snare game. Far more deer have been taken with rifles using tasco scopes than nikons or whatever expensive brand you want to use.
I googled it and there were bad reviews everywhere and some that said they're only good for 22's or air guns.
Reluctantly I bolted it to my rifle and went to the range. Once zeroed it stayed zeroed so I have no regrets. Just like using Tasco, Bushnell and Simmons products. And yes I know they're the same company.
Sometimes I wonder what some of you guys would do if you found yourself in the wilderness with a cheap bolt gun and tasco scope. Probably snare game. Far more deer have been taken with rifles using tasco scopes than nikons or whatever expensive brand you want to use.
Blindstitch
New member
If you have time research the best scopes in your price range but remember that people hardly ever write good reviews. It's easier to find one or a group of people willing to bash a product.
It looks like the scope is in the $140 area. Does anyone have better recommendations in that price range.
It looks like the scope is in the $140 area. Does anyone have better recommendations in that price range.
Unlicensed Dremel
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Don't. Just don't. It won't work. It never does. You can't get something for nothing - or almost nothing. It will be cloudy and most likely break within a month.
CarJunkieLS1
New member
For the $140 price range I would buy a Redfield Revenge 3-9x42. I have 2 of them one on a .308 bolt action and the other on a .270 bolt action. For ~$150 they are tough to beat and are clearer than any of the 3 Nikon Prostaffs that I own.
The scope on the .270 has seen fog, rain, snow, in 15°F weather and also hot humid 90°F weather. Never had anything to complain about. It has seen 100+ rounds and has never shifted POI. My .308 scope is still new but I expect more of the same.
The scope on the .270 has seen fog, rain, snow, in 15°F weather and also hot humid 90°F weather. Never had anything to complain about. It has seen 100+ rounds and has never shifted POI. My .308 scope is still new but I expect more of the same.
In the $140 area... Redfield.... Nikon Prostaff.... Bushnell XLT...
All work decently good. I have some beater rifles with beater scopes.
A rule of thumb however on a nice rifle you plan on keeping/ handing down, spend as much on the glass as you did on the rifle. Don't skimp on rings either. MOST sighting issues are due to poorly made rings and improper mounting, I deal with it on a daily basis. Leupold reps will even tell you yes they carry a life time warranty but 9 times out of 10 there's no need to send the scope back because its a mounting issue.
All work decently good. I have some beater rifles with beater scopes.
A rule of thumb however on a nice rifle you plan on keeping/ handing down, spend as much on the glass as you did on the rifle. Don't skimp on rings either. MOST sighting issues are due to poorly made rings and improper mounting, I deal with it on a daily basis. Leupold reps will even tell you yes they carry a life time warranty but 9 times out of 10 there's no need to send the scope back because its a mounting issue.
4runnerman
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To all the NA sayers with NO expirence with NCStar. I had and still have a 6 x 24 x 56 on my 223. Over 15000 rounds , still dead on, still flawless,still very clear and clean. Never have had to adjust it once over in all those rounds. Sighted at 100 yards. Perfect for a small rifle. Now-Flip side of scope. Once you have it sighted you are as good as any scope on the market. DO NOT attempt to use adjstments for 200 or so on. Tracking is VERY VERY horrable. This is the ONLY issue you will have. I have Mil Dot. Sighted at 100 and use Mil Dot from there out.
Took a Yote at 450 yards with it very easy.
Took a Yote at 450 yards with it very easy.
nemesiss45
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Ok, I won't try to sell NcStar. I've never used one... I don't plan to... but for the price of the scope he's looking at, you could buy a nikon prostaff. That's what I have and I have no complaints. sure, I want a better scope. I plan on getting a Vortex Viper HST when I can afford it, but at the end of the day, that scope costs nearly as much as the rifle it will go on (before the cost of the mods I've put into it.) There are a lot of people out there that do not have the budget to put $1500 scopes on all their rifles (or any). I could buy 1-3 guns for that much money. There are crap brands and there are good budget brands, but some people have to look for the best bang for their buck.
Unlicensed Dremel
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Incorrect. I tried the NCStar - it was junk - extremely cloudy and the QD mount system wouldn't stay tight. I'm glad you had a good experience. Apparently the brand is a crap shoot.
4runnerman
New member
Dremel I think you hit it ( crap shoot ). I only have the one and it is very clear and after 4 years IMHO very reliable also. My Target rifle wears a Sightron 3.
Soon to be upgraded to a Nightforce 12 x 42 x 56. I old and my eyes are not the best any more. The Sightron ( 8 x 32 x 56 ) is great, but at 1000 yards I could use more umph.
Soon to be upgraded to a Nightforce 12 x 42 x 56. I old and my eyes are not the best any more. The Sightron ( 8 x 32 x 56 ) is great, but at 1000 yards I could use more umph.