Can an adjustable comb change the comb's drop

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TheKlawMan

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The other day a fellow showing me a Rottweil with an adjustable stock claimed it could be set for that the comb mimicked that of a parallel comb stock. I thought that adjustable combs raise and lower the comb but do not change its steepness. In other words, the angle of the comb remains the same. (eg. If you raised the comb 1/4" the front and back of the comb is raised the same distance and the angle of the comb remains constant.)

The same person was also saying that parts weren't a problem on the out of production Rottweil, a matter on which the members of this board previously set me straight. It ain't so, but is this person correct about the comb? I doubt that he is.
 
TKM, my friend, it depends on the nature of the adjustable comb. Depending on the sophistication of the hardware, some combs are very adjustable: height, pitch and cant.
 
The adj comb on some guns that come with an angled comb ....like the Browning Citori 625 series of O/U's ....the adj comb moves up and down - but it stays at the same angle as the comb ( its never parallel to the rib ). So its just like the Rottweil you saw...

http://www.browning.com/products/ca...e_id=355&content=citori-625-sporting-firearms

And in most wood stock guns ....the hardware allows some left and right movement for cast both "on" or "off" ...the centerline. In many synthetic stocks ...the hardware has presets -- for up and down and does not allow for cast ...like the Browning Cynergy sporting series...

http://www.browning.com/products/ca...rting-composite-with-adjustable-comb-firearms
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Thanks Jim. I spent the day touring the local gun shops and now I have to wash to drool out of my favorite polo shirt.

As for that Rottweil, the wannabe seller said the angle of the comb could be adjusted, but he also said it was in great shape. The under barrel failed to fire half the time.
 
Perhaps, depending on what you call extra light loads. They were 7/8 ouncers with an approximate fps of 1250 and barrel pressure of 8,700 psi. In fact, that very day I bought the next smaller size powder bushing to allow me to dial back the drop. I would think something closer to 1150 fps as extra light. No?
 
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To me 1200 fps is "standard" ....regardless whether its 7/8 oz or 1 oz ...
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so 1150 fps to me is "light" ...whether its 7/8 oz or 1 oz ...

and over 1250 fps is heavy ....and shot charges are usually 1 oz to 1 1/8 oz ..
 
Every experienced shooter - will fire the bottom or under barrel first on an O/U - because of the axis on how its closer to the center line of the gun ...and I know you primarily shoot Trap singles ..so I don't know about this gun ( or its owner frankly )....

The bottom barrel not firing is curious --not to mention why a shooter that has a Rottweil would put up with it is interesting. It might be a "firing pin set / or trigger reset" issue - hence I'm assuming zippy's question about light loads / but I don't know if the Rottweil has Inertia or mechanical triggers in it.

But in any event - its certainly fixable ...replace firing pins, springs, etc ...maybe tighten some of the action if its contributing in some way to the problem ...and I would think the rebuild can be done for as little as $ 250 - $ 500.

There was a day when the Rottweil was a very high end gun ...but with today's innovation in "Trap" guns and "competition guns" in general ---- with moveable weight systems to adjust balance points, adjustable floating ribs, better triggers, gracoil systems, etc ...the Rottweils kind of got lost in the shuffle a little / but I don't know when they were last made either and whether parts are a problem or not.

In any event, its a gun I'd say - pass on. You're at a point in your development where you need a solid gun that will fire 250,000 shells without any question of its durability ....not a gun that you may have to put $ 500 into, to get it to fire the bottom barrel - in my opinion.
 
There was a day when the Rottweil was a very high end gun​
When I started shooting competitively, 25-years ago, Rottweils were already scarce. I don't have a clue about servicing and parts these days.
 
The reason the guy is still shooting that Rottweil is he isn't. He shoots a much newer unsingle and I beieve is taking the Rottweil to the range in hopes of selling it.

I am pretty sure that the second trigger is set by inertia, in which case extra light loads might contribute to the problem.

The cost of repairs is supposed to be a problem with the Rottweil, due to the lack of parts. What was funny was this guy was saying how a firing pin or spring is no big thing, but because a couple of guys in New York have cornered the remaining parts one won't even give him a quoter for repairs witjhout seeing the gun.

It also had fixed chokes, I believe full. I have looked on the net and can't quite find a picture just like it. For a collector it might be a rare find, but its not what I need which is a shooter.
 
Zippy. I agree about the B-guns, even if they aren't as much fun as B-girls. What I am finding, though, is unless you are looking at the least expensive Berettas (which is actually about all I can afford), you have to go to Pacific Sporting Arms to see a 682. Triple B may have some, but I am not sure. I will give them a call as I hope to go there Thursday and try a few guns. It would be nice if I was ready to blast a few pumpkins for Halloween.
 
keep the faith ....I saw an almost new Citori XS Skeet, 30" barrels, no adj comb in a 28ga yesterday ...that I know the shop wanted $ 2,000 for but he'd let it go for $ 1,900 .....( I think he gave the guy $ $ 1,750 for it as a trade in )....

Citori XS Skeet is not normally available in 28ga / but I know it was made by Browning on a 20ga receiver ( I have the same identical gun ) and I know the dealer that ordered them new about 7 or 8 yrs ago ...and they were a steal then at about $ 2,000 each ..../ today, new that gun will cost at
least $ 2,750 ...

A 28ga is no good for Trap ...but you just have to keep looking !!
 
you have to go to Pacific Sporting Arms to see a 682
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No you don't ;)

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Drooling is the least of my worries. Weatherby's 682 almost gives me a woody (apolgies to any ladies). (I was just wondering last night where he had been.) I think I will be patient while looking for a deal, but meanwhile I might order that Jack West to temporarily satiate my need for more gun. I think it was the same day I got to shoot Weatherby's 682 I ran into a yung hunter shooting a Ruger Red Label. He also has a problem with the size of his head in relation to his body and he uses a Jack West on his 870 and loves it. I have to say that you guys warned me that this can be addictive.

I even dropped by an FFL dealer to confirm that it was ready to receive my new boom stick, if I should find one.

Meanwhile I am waiting to see if Slugo recently acquired a gently used XS Skeet.
 
I just heard of this one. I don't know if I can handle that swing that much of a barrel. "Browning 625 Sporting 12 gauge with 32" Barrels. . . factory adjustable comb as well as a recoil reducer in the stock . . .approximately 2000 rounds through it. Asking 2800."
 
K Man, Rebecca Etchen is about one click bigger than Tinker Bell and shoots a 687 with those 32" barrels very,very well. It's part technique, part repetition and part conditioning.
 
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