Can a brand new rifle look like this?

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Just received a brand new Savage F/TR on Friday. When I looked at the bolt and chamber this is what I saw. I'm only into shooting a few years so don't know if factory test firing can make a bolt and chamber look like this. Thanks for your replies.
 
If it was brand new and not "like new" I would call Savage and see if they group the rifles and see how many times they fire that particular model. My Savage's have show sign of being fired, my Model 10 FCP moreso than my 111F. I didnt really care because I knew it was brand new (cut the factory tape myself) and if it was shot that many times they obviously made sure it worked. But if it was brand new Id call Savage and find out how many times they fire it at the factory.
 
Well, I too just got a new Savage center-fire and yes, it was dirty. I always run a patch through a new bore and this time it took two to get it cleaned. The bolt face as well as the bore, were diry. Knew for sure that it was test fired with more than one round. I'm not really all that worried about mine at this point. Now, here is the kicker; Mine came directly from the factory and was not handled by my FFL. If it really bothers you then phone the factory as they are great folks to work with. ....... :)


Be Safe !!
 
Tell me about the bore ??

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Tell me how you found the bore. I'll bet it was dirty as well. .... ;)

That's a lot of carbon for any test firing.
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I've seen other manufacturers just as diry. Perhaps the guys in the shop, take them home, over the weekend. If they are cleaned after test firing and sent to you, would you question that it had ever been test fired. .... :eek:


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I once bought a 700 that had looked like it had been fired a few times it had brass from the casings rubbed on the bottom of the bolt and bolt face. I asked the same question and was told that sometimes they are fired a few times at the factory and not to worry I should just shoot it and see how well it shoots.......glad I did because it turned out to be one of the best rifles I have ever owned.....:)
 
My Weatherby Vanguard showed a little brass residue on the bolt face, as well as a dirty chamber. It was purchased at the wally-world,so I doubt the lady behind the counter tried it out but no really, Weatherby test fires and sends you the targets with a new rifle and one came with mine.:)
 
Maybe it had some oil on it when it was fired which would cause it to get dirty a little quicker. I would clean it up and shoot it before I did anything drastic.
 
Dirty is relative but can be informative ....

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Perhaps this might shed some light on the subject;
You are absolutely right. All of our guns are test fired both
proof and function. How many rounds are fired through an individual gun
actually varies quite a bit depending on several factors. Caution is the
rule of the day. For example, if after test firing the inspector finds a
minor problem like the accutrigger being set to heavy, he will send it
back out to be adjusted. When it comes back to be retested, just to be
safe, he will start again at the beginning and shoot it again. So it is
possible that you could buy a gun that has enough rounds through it to
make the bolt face or bore appear dirty.

Bill Dermody
Marketing Manager
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Again, I would prefer to have some soot/dirt that for me, it confirms that it was indeed, test fired. I always clean a new bore and bolt faces. There are times when I will do a disassembly as well. ....... ;)

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I'm guessing that is oil / grease more so than burned powder. If the barrel is clean(ish) I'd just clean the bolt face and wouldn't worry about it.
 
The only way to know for sure is to check the bore/throat with a bore scope. Not a bore light but one of those optical instruments where you can actually see the bore surface and condition.

The dirt my be just from proof testing.
 
New guns are machined from steel, machining uses a mix of oil and water to lubricate and flush out chips. The oil will stick to the metal, and it's only lightly filtered at best.

Further processing may include lapping, which could leave remnants of paste compound on parts.

EPA is pretty stringent about volatile petroleums and their use, I no longer expect bright shiny superclean gun parts coming out of American factories. Most of the early solutions used in production worked well, were carcinogenic, flammable, and now highly restricted. I doubt that's powder residue - especially a bolt gun. The chamber isn't opened until the barrel is fully vented, unlike a self loading action. It's likely just tool oil, and being in a recessed area, simply needs some TLC to remove. Production schedules simply don't allow for a white glove cleaning before a gun is boxed and shipped.

It's just another reason we don't have as much production here, we demand bright shiny and new, but we don't want to be the guy dying at age 52 from exposure to cleaning solvents from 25 years working at the plant.
 
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