Calling all .357 sig fans!!

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my experience in shooting different defensive loads for the .357 sig is limited just Glaser safety grey ball and Winchester white box hollow points. what is your favorite defensive load and price per round?
 
Gold Dot 125s by CCI.

I dunno what they cost now.

From my Glock 33 it chronos at 1310 fps on the average.

I also have a Glock 32 but have not chronoed out of it yet.

Shoots fine.

Deaf
 
If you shoot that indoors without hearing protection, you will lose your hearing.

That is why I dont carry .357 anything.
 
I love the magnum and not too long ago I picked up the Sig P-250 conversion kit for the 9mm I had. Shoots great. I picked up some Hornady 124 grain XTP just it because it was available. Advertised at 1350 out of the muzzle. However, I need to do some research on it and find out how it performs on the FBI tests.
 
I shoot Speer Gold Dot 125gr in a G33. 1310 sounds right, I chronied them a couple years ago, over 13 but don't remember exactly.

I've got a 5.3" Lone Wolf conversion barrel... my handloads easily exceed 1,500 fps from that... without exceeding max loads.
 
That is why I dont carry .357 anything.
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You don't carry it, yet you felt the need to post in this thread. Why is that?

I use Speer Gold Dots, and have also bought the Winchester Rangers when I can find them at a reasonable price.
 
125 gr Gold Dots (#54234), usually about $30.00 p/box of 50 most places. Ranger T is a bit cheaper and I'm comfortable with it if I'm out of Gold Dots.

I do have some Double Tap, which running at approx 1500 fps is **** hot, but I'm less than enthusiastic about the Sierra bullet used than the other two rounds.

Would love to find some Federal HST in .357 Sig but apparently it's like looking for Hen's teeth...
 
If you shoot that indoors without hearing protection, you will lose your hearing.
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baccusboy,

Shoot just about any gun indoors and your ears will ring. .357 sig as no decibel increase over .357 magnum or .41 mag or .44 mag and maybe a bit over +p+ 9mm or .38 Super.

If you are really worried about loosing your hearing after firing indoors, get some wolf ears.

BTW, tunnel rats in Vietnam used .45s and .38s to snake through the tunnels, find Vietcong, and shoot them with their pistols. Never heard of them loosing their hearing.

Deaf
 
I use two ... 158 grain Speer Gold Dot Hollow point at about $1.25 a round, and Buffalo Bore 158 grain JHC at about $1.40 a round.
 
About 12 years ago I bought a whole bunch of the Speer 125 Gold Dots and a whole bunch of the Federals. Once I determined each functioned well in my guns I just carry them shoot just amag full or somper year. I practice with reloads of equivalent recoil.

With any luck I'll only need to buy a box or two of new factory ammo every decade.
 
About 12 years ago I bought a whole bunch of the Speer 125 Gold Dots and a whole bunch of the Federals. Once I determined each functioned well in my guns I just carry them shoot just amag full or somper year. I practice with reloads of equivalent recoil.
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And that is the way I do it!

My Glock 26 uses +p+ Winchester 127s.

My Glock 27 uses Winchester T series 155 JHPs.

The Glock 33 uses CCI 125gr Gold Dots.

And the J .38s have Cor-Bon 158gr LSWHPs.

I reload for my practice and have a AACK .22 unit for the practice Glock 26 and a S&W 2 inch J 34 .22lr kit gun.

PLUS, dummy guns in both flavors above.

Deaf
 
baccusboy wrote <<<If you shoot that indoors without hearing protection, you will lose your hearing.

That is why I dont carry .357 anything.>>>


Funny, I fired a 357 mag indoors without hearing protection, I still have my hearing.
I am either a god, or that Internet rumor is not true.
 
Hearing loss doesn't occur immediately, it happens over time.
Shooting any gun without hearing protection will cause
hearing loss to some degree.
 
EHHH?

What did you say?

Sorry, too many range days without protection. Also, all those years in my parents factory with the power tools/lathes/bandsaws/planers/joiners/routers/etc running and no hearing protection.:D


Seriously though, I've witnessed a lot of hearing loss from my dad who worked in said factory with no protection and other relatives. It didn't show up right away, but now, in their 60s and 70s, it is REALLY noticeable.
 
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baccusboy,

Shoot just about any gun indoors and your ears will ring. .357 sig as no decibel increase over .357 magnum or .41 mag or .44 mag and maybe a bit over +p+ 9mm or .38 Super.

If you are really worried about loosing your hearing after firing indoors, get some wolf ears.

BTW, tunnel rats in Vietnam used .45s and .38s to snake through the tunnels, find Vietcong, and shoot them with their pistols. Never heard of them loosing their hearing.

Deaf
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You quoted some of the loudest rounds one might carry.

.45 and .38 are considerably less noisy than high-pressure rounds in .357 Sig.



Here is another interesting thread on the topic from elsewhere:

http://www.defensivecarry.com/forum/carry-defensive-scenarios/14563-hearing-loss.html


And on the subject of "electronic ears", please give me more info on those. I don't know much about them. Are there some that are worthwhile that are meant to be worn daily out in public without anyone noticing?
 
I love how people will try anything to discredit the 357, so people will look away from it and not accept it for use, especially the 357SIG. Its like they are scared of the 357SIG or something. Speer GDHP 125gr, I picked up a bunch of it when a local firearm store was closing a few years back. Range, I use a variety but all in 125gr.

Don't mean to stray for the topic but somethings need to be addressed. Even a 22lr fired in a room is loud, a 9mm fired in a room is loud, 38 Special...40SW...380ACP....a lady finger...etc all will be loud and you will have ringing in your ears. If this is the case that people use to not consider a cartridge, then they really do not have any idea about their firearms imo. Less noisy...its not like its going to be on t.v.
Hope this helps...
Here are some decibel levels (Notice no barrel lengths were give, that also plays a factor):

Table 3. CENTERFIRE PISTOL DATA

.25 ACP 155.0 dB
.32 LONG 152.4 dB
.32 ACP 153.5 dB
.380 157.7 dB
9mm 159.8 dB
.38 S&W 153.5 dB
.38 Spl 156.3 dB
.357 Magnum 164.3 dB
.41 Magnum 163.2 dB
.44 Spl 155.9 dB
.45 ACP 157.0 dB
.45 COLT 154.7 dB

Notice in the following links there will be slight difference in the numbers. That is probably because of where they were testing (size of the room, the rooms insulation, range, temp of the room, temp of etc etc), barrel lengths, and the cartridge itself i.e.: the gunpowder (and amount of) and bullet weight was their test cartridge. I'm sure they did not use the same gr and weight cartridge for every test. So I would say these are averages:

http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13343

http://www.freehearingtest.com/hia_gunfirenoise.shtml

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...k-WcCw&usg=AFQjCNFjVn8HTYbNkaiSAbfY7qd9Qb2JEw

http://www.oshax.org/info/articles/decibel-levels

This was taken off another forum and has some good info on firearm decibel levels. (Notice no barrel lengths were give, that also plays a factor):

"Some common firearm loudness levels are:
22 rim fire rifle 126dB SPL
30/30 rifle 158dB SPL
12 gauge shotgun 3-inch magnum 157dB SPL
.357 magnum 164dB SPL
A whisper is approximately 20 dB, conversational voice is closer to 60 dB. A vacuum cleaner is on the order of 80 dB, a motorcycle approaches 115 dB. A fighter plane on take off roll cranks out about 140 dB, which is quiet compared a firearm enthusiast's environment. A 12 Gauge shotgun is a 156 dB wonder, as is a typical 40 S&W pistol. A 44 magnum is approximately 164 dB and all of those big ported rifles tip the scale at over 170 dB. The threshold for pain is 130 dB and hearing loss, trauma, occurs at 160 dB. Ear protection reduces the dB level that reaches our eardrums. A good set of ear muffs cut noise by 40 dB, which brings that big ported blaster down to 131 dB. Keep in mind the threshold for pain is 130 dB. Slip in a set of ear plugs under those mouse ears, and another 30 dB is clipped, getting down to a the soothing sound level of a chain saw..."
 
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