california move
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robins - Here's a link to get you started: http://caag.state.ca.us/firearms/
Bullet item two will be of particular interest to you.
Monterey is a beautiful area. Be sure to take your family to the aquarium!
Just trying to add some honey to the vinegar.
Cliff
Bullet item two will be of particular interest to you.
Monterey is a beautiful area. Be sure to take your family to the aquarium!
Just trying to add some honey to the vinegar.
Cliff
Hey robins
Check out www.packing.org.
Great site to find out cool, fun packing info for all states.
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Check out www.packing.org.
Great site to find out cool, fun packing info for all states.
[This message has been edited by akira (edited June 28, 2000).]
Randy Davis
New member
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by robins:
I'm a CCW holder in Indiana and Kentucky and am about to be relocated to Monterey California. What unpleasant things do I have to look forward to with respect to my handguns and ability to defend myself and family?[/quote]
Unless you relocate to some of the rural counties in Kalifornia, where the police still issue firearms carry permits, or donate a large chunk of cash to the local sheriffs' bank account like some people do in Sacramento county <g> for instance, you will be unable to obtain a CCW permit inside California.
Be aware, too, that California is not a "Shall Issue" state and that applying for a CCW permit will also put your name, address and lots of personal information including things about people who know you, on a possible "known gun-owners" list with local law-enforcement officals.
Since things are not getting better IRT gun ownership in KA, in fact they are getting decidely worse, that could be a real nightmare in the future :-(
BTW, welcome to sunny Kalifornia: Land of the Serfs, and home of the Knaves ;-)
I'm a CCW holder in Indiana and Kentucky and am about to be relocated to Monterey California. What unpleasant things do I have to look forward to with respect to my handguns and ability to defend myself and family?[/quote]
Unless you relocate to some of the rural counties in Kalifornia, where the police still issue firearms carry permits, or donate a large chunk of cash to the local sheriffs' bank account like some people do in Sacramento county <g> for instance, you will be unable to obtain a CCW permit inside California.
Be aware, too, that California is not a "Shall Issue" state and that applying for a CCW permit will also put your name, address and lots of personal information including things about people who know you, on a possible "known gun-owners" list with local law-enforcement officals.
Since things are not getting better IRT gun ownership in KA, in fact they are getting decidely worse, that could be a real nightmare in the future :-(
BTW, welcome to sunny Kalifornia: Land of the Serfs, and home of the Knaves ;-)
William R. Wilburn
New member
robins,
Take up SCUBA and free-diving while here on the left coast. Night dives off Monastary Beach will keep you in Condition Red. You will start to think that waterproof capsul for your Glock might just be a good idea. Think jaws.
I have speared some nice ling cod in the area and Monkey-Faced Eel is reeaall tasty if you pound it a might.
Head up the coast to Mendocino for the abalone.
The Santa Cruz Mountains have excellent hog hunting. The local boys like to to jump in the middle of them and kill with a blade. I guess they are practicing for total firearms confiscation.
Everything is a felony. Last year is became a felony to eat a horse. OK. I always thought they were too stringy and greasy anyway. Don't worry about all the laws. If you aren't a felon whe you come into Califronia you will be when you leave.
The philosophy and geography of Northern California is much different than Southern California. Taxation with representation. Two names you will love to hate: Boxer and Finestein.
Go easy in the woods in the late summer when the marijuana is being harvested. Meth is a huge problem here. Clue: The teeth. You will know what I mean.
Asian gangs are dangerous. Hispanic gangs are dangerous. Advice: asian gang members can look and be 12 or 24. They will kill without remorse. Do not engage unless fully committed. No talking. Engage or don't. I repeat: Leave the scene if you are not willing to fully commit and engage.
William
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Take up SCUBA and free-diving while here on the left coast. Night dives off Monastary Beach will keep you in Condition Red. You will start to think that waterproof capsul for your Glock might just be a good idea. Think jaws.
I have speared some nice ling cod in the area and Monkey-Faced Eel is reeaall tasty if you pound it a might.
Head up the coast to Mendocino for the abalone.
The Santa Cruz Mountains have excellent hog hunting. The local boys like to to jump in the middle of them and kill with a blade. I guess they are practicing for total firearms confiscation.
Everything is a felony. Last year is became a felony to eat a horse. OK. I always thought they were too stringy and greasy anyway. Don't worry about all the laws. If you aren't a felon whe you come into Califronia you will be when you leave.
The philosophy and geography of Northern California is much different than Southern California. Taxation with representation. Two names you will love to hate: Boxer and Finestein.
Go easy in the woods in the late summer when the marijuana is being harvested. Meth is a huge problem here. Clue: The teeth. You will know what I mean.
Asian gangs are dangerous. Hispanic gangs are dangerous. Advice: asian gang members can look and be 12 or 24. They will kill without remorse. Do not engage unless fully committed. No talking. Engage or don't. I repeat: Leave the scene if you are not willing to fully commit and engage.
William
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Suggested reading:
http://www.ninehundred.com/~equalccw
Pay particular attention to "CCW In California: A Disaster Analyzed", and "The Contra Costa Cronies Roster". Then read the decisions in Guillory vs. Gates and Salute vs. Pitchess.
Upshot: what they're doing with CCW here is wildly unconstitutional and in 80% or more of all issuing agencies, illegal as well.
We're going to punish them for it, in court, severely...
Jim
http://www.ninehundred.com/~equalccw
Pay particular attention to "CCW In California: A Disaster Analyzed", and "The Contra Costa Cronies Roster". Then read the decisions in Guillory vs. Gates and Salute vs. Pitchess.
Upshot: what they're doing with CCW here is wildly unconstitutional and in 80% or more of all issuing agencies, illegal as well.
We're going to punish them for it, in court, severely...
Jim
Robins,
One thing I haven't seen mentioned is the cost of living. I grew up in CO, joined the military and moved here when I got out. This is by far the most expensive area I've ever lived in. Fixer/uppers are routinely listed between 180-200 thousand in the low crime areas. It does have a few perks. Mountain biking and sailing are two I have really come to enjoy. Feel free to e-mail me if you need anything from a current resident.
Nice to see some neighbors on tfl.
Deven
One thing I haven't seen mentioned is the cost of living. I grew up in CO, joined the military and moved here when I got out. This is by far the most expensive area I've ever lived in. Fixer/uppers are routinely listed between 180-200 thousand in the low crime areas. It does have a few perks. Mountain biking and sailing are two I have really come to enjoy. Feel free to e-mail me if you need anything from a current resident.
Nice to see some neighbors on tfl.
Deven
Like Erick, I was born and raised here. And like Erick, come retirement I'm gone. This used to be a nice place but now it's just insane. Everything WmRWilburn said is true and then some. Wait until you get a load of California-style government. 
You must "state your reasons" for wanting a CCW and register your weapons. Once your application for a CCW is complete, the Sheriff or Police Chief (pick your best shot) _may_ approve it and you will be allowed to qualify at the range. Afterwards, your application goes to the DOJ and about four more months will then pass before you hear anything more. Since you're from out of state it will take longer. A currently pending state bill (AB 273) would require registration and licensing of _all_ handgun owners.
From today's Santa Barbara News-Press: "A handgun license bill co-authored by Assemblywoman Hannah-Beth Jackson, D-Santa Barbara, passed the Senate Public Safety Committee by a 5-0 vote Tuesday.
Assembly Bill 273 would require a safety course for those wanting to purchase or borrow a handgun. After proving
they can operate a gun safely -- and upon passing a written test on state gun laws -- potential owners or users would then have to apply for a handgun license through the local
law enforcement agency.
The license would be issued by the Department of Justice."
Naturally, this will keep us all safe from the individuals described in WmRWilburn's post.
Welcome to the PRK. "Come on vacation, leave on probation."
Feel free to email.
Regards,
Ledbetter
You must "state your reasons" for wanting a CCW and register your weapons. Once your application for a CCW is complete, the Sheriff or Police Chief (pick your best shot) _may_ approve it and you will be allowed to qualify at the range. Afterwards, your application goes to the DOJ and about four more months will then pass before you hear anything more. Since you're from out of state it will take longer. A currently pending state bill (AB 273) would require registration and licensing of _all_ handgun owners.
From today's Santa Barbara News-Press: "A handgun license bill co-authored by Assemblywoman Hannah-Beth Jackson, D-Santa Barbara, passed the Senate Public Safety Committee by a 5-0 vote Tuesday.
Assembly Bill 273 would require a safety course for those wanting to purchase or borrow a handgun. After proving
they can operate a gun safely -- and upon passing a written test on state gun laws -- potential owners or users would then have to apply for a handgun license through the local
law enforcement agency.
The license would be issued by the Department of Justice."
Naturally, this will keep us all safe from the individuals described in WmRWilburn's post.
Welcome to the PRK. "Come on vacation, leave on probation."
Feel free to email.
Regards,
Ledbetter
Bullwinkle
New member
The very idea that you are moving to a state I want to get out of nauseates me. You did not say why you are moving which is fine because it really does not matter. No reason is good enough.
You should consider a move to Ca. like a move to China. Get a clue.
You should consider a move to Ca. like a move to China. Get a clue.
I was born and raised in the PRK. I am nearing 60 and will be moving the day after my 60th B-Day (this way I pick up the greatest retirement perks) to Idaho.
I will wear a black band on my arm and a black ribbon over my left front shirt pocket for you today. May God have mercy on you and youors once you arrive here.
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To own firearms is to affirm that freedom and liberty are not gifts from the state.
I will wear a black band on my arm and a black ribbon over my left front shirt pocket for you today. May God have mercy on you and youors once you arrive here.
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To own firearms is to affirm that freedom and liberty are not gifts from the state.
Randy Davis
New member
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Elker_43:
I was born and raised in the PRK. I am nearing 60 and will be moving the day after my 60th B-Day (this way I pick up the greatest retirement perks) to Idaho.
I will wear a black band on my arm and a black ribbon over my left front shirt pocket for you today. May God have mercy on you and youors once you arrive here.
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LOL!! Amen to that!
You lucky dog! I'll be following you, Elker.....in about ten years :-(
I can't wait to leave this state, assuming the PRK is still part of the Union, and not "El Norte Mexico", in ten years, of course.
I was born and raised in the PRK. I am nearing 60 and will be moving the day after my 60th B-Day (this way I pick up the greatest retirement perks) to Idaho.
I will wear a black band on my arm and a black ribbon over my left front shirt pocket for you today. May God have mercy on you and youors once you arrive here.
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LOL!! Amen to that!
You lucky dog! I'll be following you, Elker.....in about ten years :-(
I can't wait to leave this state, assuming the PRK is still part of the Union, and not "El Norte Mexico", in ten years, of course.
Bullwinkle
New member
Ledbetter,
I'm not being unsupportive, I'm just trying to get him prepared for the attitudes he will recieve when he calls his representatives and asks them to support his civil rights.
I'm not being unsupportive, I'm just trying to get him prepared for the attitudes he will recieve when he calls his representatives and asks them to support his civil rights.
Most of the precautionary sentiments voiced are true. However, California has some beautiful country, Wine growing region, coastline is beautiful. Except for the Liberal Politics and Hollyweird influence. I was born and raised here and will really miss if it gets any worse, because I will be moving to AZ most likely.
BloodyThumb
New member
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