CA - Chamber Loaded Indicators and Mag Disconnects (Oh My!)
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Wyo Cowboy
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BOTH eyes... and a large stick handy to beat them back into their boxes!!
Savage10FP308
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Wait...
I'm not sure if I have this right. If not, someone please fill me in. The government already regulates fully auto weapons and now they are telling manufacturers what they have to put on there guns??? If I do have that right, then that is seriously messed up!
I'm not sure if I have this right. If not, someone please fill me in. The government already regulates fully auto weapons and now they are telling manufacturers what they have to put on there guns??? If I do have that right, then that is seriously messed up!
For some time now
The Democratic People's Republic of California (and others) have been doing things like this for some time now. There are many models of handguns that are not legal to sell in California, because they were never submitted to the convoluted and expensive testing process.
For one, any handgun that was not submitted (by the manufacturer) and is no longer in production cannot be sold. There are also many other rules. there have been some exellent posts in the past which have covered the details well. Run a search and see.
As far as a govt requiring what features have to be on a gun in order to be sold, Savage, just look at what has been going on for the last 10 years with "semi automatic assault rifles" (until the ban sunset). And before that.
Back in 68 the feds put serious restrictions on what kind of guns could be imported. The "sporting purposes" language became law at that time. BATF instituted regulations defining certain dimensions (among other things) that a handgun had to meet in order to be imported. This was claimed to be done to keep out the junk guns (Saturday Night Specials). The Walther PPK (not a junk gun by anyone's standards) was banned from import because ONE of its dimensions was 1/4 inch too short.
George Bush (Sr) banned with an executive order, the importation of the military look alike rifles (you know, the ones with the nasty pistol grips). That is where all those goofy looking "thumbhole stock" AKs and HKs came from. The manufacturers COMPLIED with the law, and they then got bashed for "exploiting a loophole", in order to continue to sell their product.
Now, none of these laws and decrees could be challenged on 2nd Amendment grounds, as they did not cover what citizens could own, only what could be imported for sale. This is also why many military style rifles have US made recievers. If the gun (reciever - the serial numbered part) was made in the US, you could buy and own it. So what a number of enterprising businessmen did was manufacture recievers, and buy the rest of the parts from overseas. The banned (from import) rifles were stripped doiwn, the parts legally imported, and assembled onto US made recievers for sale to law abiding civilians. All perfectly legal within the existing laws.
Boy, did the anti-gunners whine about that. We were exploiting a "loophole". Of course, their intent was to keep these kinds of guns from being sold at all, but that was not the law that got passed. And good old fashioned American capitalism triumphed. Of couorse, they said, we "cheated".
There are lots more examples of the Govt (at various levels) decreeing (by law) what features must be on a gun before they will allow it for sale under their jurisdiction. A little research will be enlightening. And shocking!
The Democratic People's Republic of California (and others) have been doing things like this for some time now. There are many models of handguns that are not legal to sell in California, because they were never submitted to the convoluted and expensive testing process.
For one, any handgun that was not submitted (by the manufacturer) and is no longer in production cannot be sold. There are also many other rules. there have been some exellent posts in the past which have covered the details well. Run a search and see.
As far as a govt requiring what features have to be on a gun in order to be sold, Savage, just look at what has been going on for the last 10 years with "semi automatic assault rifles" (until the ban sunset). And before that.
Back in 68 the feds put serious restrictions on what kind of guns could be imported. The "sporting purposes" language became law at that time. BATF instituted regulations defining certain dimensions (among other things) that a handgun had to meet in order to be imported. This was claimed to be done to keep out the junk guns (Saturday Night Specials). The Walther PPK (not a junk gun by anyone's standards) was banned from import because ONE of its dimensions was 1/4 inch too short.
George Bush (Sr) banned with an executive order, the importation of the military look alike rifles (you know, the ones with the nasty pistol grips). That is where all those goofy looking "thumbhole stock" AKs and HKs came from. The manufacturers COMPLIED with the law, and they then got bashed for "exploiting a loophole", in order to continue to sell their product.
Now, none of these laws and decrees could be challenged on 2nd Amendment grounds, as they did not cover what citizens could own, only what could be imported for sale. This is also why many military style rifles have US made recievers. If the gun (reciever - the serial numbered part) was made in the US, you could buy and own it. So what a number of enterprising businessmen did was manufacture recievers, and buy the rest of the parts from overseas. The banned (from import) rifles were stripped doiwn, the parts legally imported, and assembled onto US made recievers for sale to law abiding civilians. All perfectly legal within the existing laws.
Boy, did the anti-gunners whine about that. We were exploiting a "loophole". Of course, their intent was to keep these kinds of guns from being sold at all, but that was not the law that got passed. And good old fashioned American capitalism triumphed. Of couorse, they said, we "cheated".
There are lots more examples of the Govt (at various levels) decreeing (by law) what features must be on a gun before they will allow it for sale under their jurisdiction. A little research will be enlightening. And shocking!
Savage10FP308
Moderator
Wow!
That was a very good and informative post. Thanks for all the info!
That was a very good and informative post. Thanks for all the info!