(CA) Armed Fairfax cops invade wrong house

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From the artsy bedroom community of Marin, home of a whole lot of liberals. They must love this: "I said, 'Sir, sir, please check with Pac Bell.' All I got back was 'shut up, shut up.' The cop with the canine unit said, 'If you don't know anything, what are so nervous about?'"

http://www.marinij.com/news/stories/index1000620.html

Armed Fairfax cops invade wrong house

By Rebecca Rosen Lum

John Fischer opened his door Wednesday morning at a little after 11 a.m. to face a battery of armed police officers with their automatic weapons trained on him.

Over the next half-hour, the officers rifled through Fischer's home at 7935 Sir Francis Drake Blvd. in Lagunitas, taunted him, and "tore through here like commandos, screaming and yelling, turning things upside down," he said.

Fairfax police admitted they made a mistake, but denied disrupting Fisher's house.

"With him standing there we checked the house for the suspect and we left nothing disturbed, except some doors were opened and one of officers may have looked under the bed," said Sgt. Dan Johnston.

The law enforcement team, led by Fairfax police Det. Phil Torres and one canine unit, was closing in on a man suspected of robbing Perry's Deli in March. Marin County sheriff's deputies provided back-up aid.

The officers later found the suspect, William Lipps Jr., at a Rosario Avenue home in the neighboring town of Forest Knolls. Lipps is in custody in Marin County Jail on $100,000 bail.

Officers said that they were looking for the fugitive, and had traced a telephone number Lipps was known to have used. Using internal records, the police were led to Fischer's home.

But that number had been transfered to a Forest Knolls address, Fischer said.

"I must have told them that 10 or 15 times," Fischer said. "I said, 'Sir, sir, please check with Pac Bell.' All I got back was 'shut up, shut up.' The cop with the canine unit said, 'If you don't know anything, what are so nervous about?' Well, why wouldn't I be nervous, with an automatic weapon pointed at me?"

Fisher, a 35-year-old property manager and antique importer, said he gave the officers permission to look for Lipps inside his tenant's quarters, "but they trashed the place, went through her paperwork, and damaged her possessions," he said. "I just felt awful."

When Lipps did not turn up at the house, Sgt. Johnston had staffers check the phone number and address twice. Around 11:40 a.m., a call came over the police scanner revealing the officers had the wrong address.

"They quite literally missed by a mile," Fischer said. "Once they got the word from Pac Bell, they were out of here like a bat out of hell."

"We were wrong," Johnston said. "I flat-out apologized to Mr. Fischer for any inconvenience, and for any misunderstandings that might have been generated with his neighbors. All he did was step out of his house to go to work, and there was quite some activity, I can tell you."

Fischer appreciated Johnston's apology, and called him "a really good guy - a nice, nice man. All I want to know is, what went wrong?"

Fischer also said sheriff's deputies conducted themselves "with the utmost professionalism."

Undersheriff Dennis Fin-negan confirmed that the officers arrived with an arrest warrant for Lipps signed by a Superior Court judge.

"I really feel for the guy," he said. "Guns are real awful to see. It's terrible to see one pointed at you."

However, he said Fairfax police had good reason to believe Lipps was armed: When the arrest was made, he had two guns within his grasp.

"He's a very dangerous guy," Finnegan said of Lipps.

Fischer has not yet determined whether he will file a police complaint, and he said lawsuits "are not my style."

He also said he adamantly supports well-directed and efficient law enforcement.

"All I want is some accountability," he said.

Contact Rebecca Rosen Lum via e-mail at rrosenlum@marinij.com

Copyright 2000 Marin Independent Journal, a Gannett publication.
 
Oh my! Armed officers! Are there any other kind?

I love how they insinuate that just because a man is armed, he's a danger.

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"Anyone feel like saluting the flag which the strutting ATF and FBI gleefully raised over the smoldering crematorium of Waco, back in April of ‘93?" -Vin Suprynowicz
 
Cops without guns are not uncommon in Switzerland.

However, the criminals usually don't dare to shoot them.

The last one who killed a Bernese state police officer had a lethal
run-in with a SWAT unit. Story goes three SWAT guys each emptied their
MP5 clip into the felons corpse.
 
I was born and raised in Marin. No better place to live in the 50's to mid 60's when the county was still solid middle class conservative.

I haven't been to Fairfax for several years, but the place is small... certainly not large enough to support a "battery" of LEO's. Lagunitas isn't that close... a bit of a drive up and over White's Hill. Used to be covered by the Sheriff's Dept., but maybe they contracted to the Fairfax PD.

Between this and the Woodacre killings, high excitement in my old stomping grounds.

Cliff
 
British police are also officially "unarmed" unless on special detail, but if you talk to one in confidence, you will find that nearly all of them carry some kind of pistol whilst on duty.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>"I really feel for the guy," he said. "Guns are real awful to see. It's terrible to see one pointed at you."[/quote]

Love how they turn this into an anti-gun quip. Guns are awful to see? Whatever. I'd say a bunch of abusive cops would be a lot more awful to see than a gun. They could have come in with clubs and still been a threat to this guy.

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The Alcove

I twist the facts until they tell the truth. -Some intellectual sadist

The Bill of Rights is a document of brilliance, a document of wisdom, and it is the ultimate law, spoken or not, for the very concept of a society that holds liberty above the desire for ever greater power. -Me
 
So they didn't take the family silver and they didn't rape the man's wife. Other than that, what did they do differently from home invasion robbers? Lucky for them the homeowner didn't fight back against their criminal acts.

I can't imagine how utterly violated I would feel after something like this. How can their actions be anything other than violent? A reasonable search and seizure? Next thing you know they'll tell us "the people" really means "the state".
 
They already tell us that...

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The Alcove

I twist the facts until they tell the truth. -Some intellectual sadist

The Bill of Rights is a document of brilliance, a document of wisdom, and it is the ultimate law, spoken or not, for the very concept of a society that holds liberty above the desire for ever greater power. -Me
 
Yes, "guns are terrible to see", especially when pointed, by idiots in police uniform, at you.

San Francisco used to be a lovely city too, many years ago.

As P.O. Ackley once observed, on the subject of "change", he noted as follows: While change involves movement, it is not always in the direction of improvement.

He was making a comparison between Springfield and Mauser rifles, but the comparison is applicable to many things. Ackley, by the way, thought the Mauser of 1898 was far superior to the Springfield.
 
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