C&S 1911 modification -- American Shooter

jthuang

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Hey all,

Anyone see the episode of American Shooter when Jim Scoutten reviewed a neat little modification from C&S (I think it was them!) which dropped the hammer on a 1911 style gun, but left the gun in ready mode to fire?

Any opinions, etc.?

Justin

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Justin T. Huang, Esq.
late of Kennett Square, Pennsylvania
 
That is the SFS that he originally had for the Browning HP. Do a search for some of those threads. Yes, it is neat. Yes, it works. I think it answers a question that nobody asked. I do not see an advantage over cocked and locked carry.
 
Thanks, passing along info to LEO friend who is trying to convince his dept to let him (SWAT member) to carry SA auto.

Justin

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Justin T. Huang, Esq.
late of Kennett Square, Pennsylvania
 
Jeff, I agree with your assessment of the SFS. The only uses for it that I can see would be for shooters who prefer the HP and/or 1911 pistols, but are uncomfortable with cocked and locked carry- An issue that would be better served with training or switching to a pistol like the CZ75.
 
I think I saw that episode. C&S modification where you could load the gun, put on safe, and then push the hammer down. When the safety was depressed, the hammer cocked to fire. Was expensive $200-300 for it. I guess it makes the 1911 somewhat "safer" in that the hammer isn't under the potential energy of the mainspring.

As mentioned, it probably has a mental edge in safety not so much so mechanically. If the thumb safety and grip safety are depressed and the trigger pulled, the end result is the same with either mode.
 
I can honestly say that if I were in a position where I had to carry a 1911, hammer down, requiring me to thumb it back to fire, I would not carry a 1911.

Of course, if the department mandated this mode, I would probably switch to an LDA, and now, with the single stack, it could be a more comfortable fit over the Hi-Cap for the DAO trigger.
 
That system may have a benefit for a LEO from a public relations aspect. He can effectively carry a cocked and locked 1911 or BHP, but it does not appear to be cocked because the hammer is down. That MAY be a valid reason for the system, to keep from upsetting an unknowing public with a visibly cocked hammer.
 
It might also have a benefit for concealed carry. I've heard people complaint about the exposed hammer of a condition 1 weapon catching on clothing. This could prevent that situation.
 
I agree that it is a solution in search of a problem. I carried a Colt LWCommander in condition 3 for over 15 years. Both 38 Super and 45. In an old Askins avenger and a Milt Sparks Summer special. I never had a problem with safty or snags. The kit is mechanically sound. I have an Inglis HP and a S&W MD.58 that have been customized by C&S. Any custom work they do is top notch. I'll use my SA Auto's the way John Browning intended though.

Cheers,

ts

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In my neck of the woods the Sheriffs are allowed to carry 1911s. All the ones I've seen carry cocked and locked. This doesn't seem to bother folks around here.

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So many pistols, so little money.
 
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