Buying Used

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I've started shopping for a "real" handgun. Being a newbie, so far I only have a MkII, and am anxious to get something a little more useful. And after hearing shotgun and pistol fire nearby at 10:30 last night (we're used to hearing it during the day, but at night it's a different story), I'd like to step up my efforts to find something.

Unfortunately, money is quite an issue at the moment, although I may be able to use the aforementioned scary noises to get permission from the financial manager of the household. I plan on checking into a Ruger P97, but it seems like I might be able to expand my selection by looking at used weapons, and I've sort of had my heart set on a 1911.

My question: I've noticed that a many of you talk about buying new guns, only to trade them in because they don't work reliably. If I buy a used pistol, am I any more likely to get one with problems than I would if I bought new? Any tips on shopping for used guns? Thanks.

zook
 
Zook,
I've thought about that a lot and decided that I want nothing to do with just trading off a lemon. My conscience would hurt. What if I traded off a pistol that didn't work right and someone purchased it for self defense and then some dark night they had to depend on an undependable firearm. One of the gun shops that I frequent has four used Walther TPH's in their used gun case. The little Walthers look great, brand new in fact. Now, why would four people trade in their great looking TPH's? I don't trust used guns unless they're from a friend who knows his stuff and I get to try them out before buying.

Will

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[This message has been edited by WLM (edited September 16, 2000).]
 
zook; I've had good AND bad luck with used pistols. Fortunately, I was able to return them. If you buy used asked the guy behind the counter point blank-"if it doesn't work can I bring it back"? I don't think a used 1911 will be much of a "bargain" because they hold their value so well. If you want the best VALUE on the market in a 45 cal pistol get the Ruger P-97. Good Luck, J. Parker
 
Zook,
Some of the best guns I've ever owned were bought used. But, I've also been burned a time or two. Judging used guns isn't something that's easy to explain to a new shooter. Its more of a skill learned with years of experience and that includes learning the hard way. But, considering the poor quality control that seems to be common these days, even buying new from a well established manufacturer is a coin toss too.
Actually, I prefer to buy used guns because of the price. Stick to the better companies and ask the dealer about his policy for dealing with lemons. I really think there are more good used guns out there than lemons.

Do a search one the subject of "used guns" and you'll find a great deal has already been posted on the subject including guidelines for judging used guns.

"Ya lays yer money down and takes yer chances."

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Zook, with your limited budget why not look at revolvers that have been traded in by police departments? You should be able to locate a good used S&W Model 13, 19, 65, or 66 in good shape and at a bargain price. These are 357 magnum and will safely get you through the night. As Justin the "Cajun Cook" used to say:" I guarantee it!" Regards, Richard.
 
Zook, I agree that a good revolver would do the trick for you. Because there are so many police trade ins as the various depts switched to semi-autos, you should be able to find a good one at a fair price.

Is it possible you have a friend or good acquaintance who is familiar with handguns enough to go with you and give advice??

There are very few situations you ever might find yourself in, where a good .357 won't save your bacon.... if you do your part.

FWIW. J.B.
 
Used is the way to go on a quality firearm. If you buy a Ruger, Glock, or Beretta used, you won't have a problem. I would make sure it works before you bet your life on it though.
 
I've never owned a 'lemon' save for one. The One was a Remington Model 10 that I got for FREE! You want it? Anyhow, if you are worried about a lemon, buy a Ruger. Besides the fact that they are inherintly reliable guns, Ruger Service Policy is very good. I've bought many a used Ruger Blackhawk and Mailed them off to Ruger for repair and Rebluing. I usually identify the major problems and ask them to fix them. They are usually very good about doing this and then return the old parts to me. Try to get the same kind of service out of the bastards that took over S&W.
 
Zook the Average firearm is bought and fired 50/100 times or so(one or two boxes of ammo) and then stuffed under the mattress or on the loset shelf. I NEVER buy new unless I must have the gun and cant sleep at night thinking about it. to give you some examples, Kimber Ultra carry, average price in this area over $1000.00, I payed $900.00 and got 4 Wilson Combats mags and a nice holster with it!

Benelli M1 super 90 sells for over $700.00 new here, I bought one Pre-owned (Never fired) for $599.00 with a soft sheath! look and be selective but you can buy used Easy!
 
Zook,
I agree with the others who said if you can try it before you buy it. I have had pretty decent luck with used firearms. The one used firearm I would not buy are police trade-ins. I am the armorer from my department and I cannot believe how some of these guys treat their deparment issued guns. Some of these guys only clean them when they find out I am going to do an inspection.
 
I never bought a used gun I didn't like. ;)
If you find a gun shop that you like and frequent, the dealer gets to know you,he shouldn't steer you wrong. If you frequent the shop enough you'll be there when some of those good buys just happen along.
I got a good deal recently on a Smith CS45. Guy bought it new and after one time at the range he decieded it did not fit his hand properly. So guess what he trades it in on a full size 1911 and I get the deal on the Smith. :) It pays to frequent a gun shop on a regular basis ;) It works for me ;)
Just my .02 worth.

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[This message has been edited by loknload (edited September 17, 2000).]
 
I've bought a ton of used guns, both pistols and rifles. I've almost always been pleased with my purchases, and frequently I spend less than half of the new price. As long as the basic gun is in good condition, there's rarely a problem that can't be addressed. You might also look for a knowledgable friend to take along to evaluate the various options. Most times, if you buy from a decent gun dealer, he'll either allow you to bring it back, or at least fix any obvious problems you have.
 
You have to keep in mind that a lot of us trade in guns to get different guns. Yes, sometimes we trade in the lemons. I never have. But I'm sure it happens. Talk to any gun dealer. He'll tell that most guys buy a gun. Keep it for a year and then see an ad for a new toy and trade for it. The gun may have only 500 rounds or so through it.
 
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