Buy a tiny gun NOW!

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Lavan

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Get a .25 auto or a reliable tiny .22 NOW. TODAY! Get some ammo for it.
Then pick up a Colt .45 and a Browning HiPower. Dip into savings if necessary.
Get at least 1000 rds for every handgun you own and replace at 600 rd level.
Do this as soon as you can.
If possible purchase from private source. Even if you have to go thru an official "private party transfer."
And regardless of what you may think of S&W, they made very good revolvers and if you don't have as many as you think you will ever need. Get them NOW!
If ANYTHING creates a run on guns, at this point in time, there are so few mfrs of RELIABLE guns that it will dry up like a dead rat in less than a week.
Believe this post.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Lavan: ... Believe this post.[/quote]Lavan, exactly what are you asking us to believe? I agree with the comments that you've made but is there something that you know that you're not saying or are you getting a VERY early start for the world computer meltdown of 2038? (January 18, 2038AD @ 10:14PM EST -- to be exact)
Share what you know, learn what you don't -- FUD
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Lavan

I've already done what you suggested.

Why?.......just because. :)

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I have too. My minimum ammo level is 2000 for each caliber though.

I think I'm going to raise it...

CMOS

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NRA? Good. Now joing the GOA!
 
I would have to agree: small guns are important for defensive actions. I would draw the line at .32acp in preference to .25/.22 (P32 works). An FAL is awfully hard to hide but a nice mousegun is a requisite for Henry Bowmanish activities and even plain self-protection. I, personally, would expect problems with the supply very shortly, though some sort of a decree.
 
The .22/25 is easier to conceal to use to get a "real" gun. If you know what I mean.

We are a "glitch" away from no guns at all.


[This message has been edited by Lavan (edited May 16, 2000).]
 
Sorry.

So what is the deal? Confiscating firearms in CA or what?

Shok

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C'mon...I hardly believe that Lavan said this to boost his business. And, I don't believe there is a national Pawnbroker's marketing ass'n. Such an inferance is uncalled for.
His advice is on spot.

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"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes" RKBA!
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FUD:
...the world computer meltdown of 2038? (January 18, 2038AD @ 10:14PM EST -- to be exact)
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OK, what am I missing? Help me out, here.

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"...and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one."
Luke 22:36
"An armed society is a polite society."
Robert Heinlein

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Hey FUD,
Got any lottery number predictions for me? I need some extra cash to buy some more ammo and guns.
Your buddy,

HJam

p.s. Something current though, not 38 years from now! Thanks

[This message has been edited by Hydejam (edited May 16, 2000).]
 
mk86fcc (and others who might be wondering about that date in 2038):

Everything in a computer is stored as a series of zeros and ones since a circuit can either be on (a 1) or off (a 0). Letters, numbers, everything is converted and stored as zeros and ones. These circuits (or bits as they are called) are grouped together in units of eight and that makes up a "byte" -- eight bits make a byte.

Further grouping is done where four bytes make up a word (not an english word but a computer word), or for the more techies here, an integer (4 bytes or 32 bits make up an integer). The current time is stored as seconds inside of an integer.

On January 18, 2038AD at 10:14PM EST the number of seconds will be greater than what can fit into those 32 bits (an integer) and computers will cease to function.

The Y2K thing was pretty simple. Just change the year date from two place (05/15/00) to four places (05/16/2000). The reason it caused just a scare was because it was so wide spread and finding it (and all of it) was the problem. Once found, fixing it was child's play.

However, this problem (which doesn't have a name yet) is much more serious. Not only is it even more widespread but there is no simple solution in place because it involved the actual hardware circuits.

Of course, since this is more than three dozen years away, nobody is even looking into it yet. Sort of like when the Y2K problem was brought up as an issue in the 1960's and everybody ignored it because it was so far away. Then in the 1990's, billions of dollars were spent trying to fix the problem since the number of computers increased greatly from the 1960's to the 1990's.

We were lucky with Y2K because the problem was easy to fix but 38 years from now when computers are even a greater part of our lives, we may not be so lucky when faced with this more serious problem.

I've editted this post because I don't want to get too far away from the original trend (which I see is happening). If anyone wants more info, please feel to e-mail directly or start another trend on this topic -- "01/18/2038 @ 22:14" would be a good title.

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Although I am a pawnbroker, I have no FFL and do not make loans on guns. Primarily jewelry, diamonds, Rolex and automobiles.
The insurance and liability are too heavy to convince me to do so.

I am also a coin & bullion dealer.
For the self serving post, I would also suggest buying gold while it is cheap. Especially silver.

But that is not for this forum. I read voraciously and believe what I see. Not what I hear.

What I......SAW......was a weekend of females demonstrating AGAINST the Constitution. I also......SAW......legal transfers of guns STOPPED by the GOVERNMENT.

None of this was treated badly by the media. Therefore, I see a HUGE "Danger" sign in front of me.

I may be paranoid, but I believe in personal firearms. Gold and silver too (just because it makes the possessor truly internationally independent)

If you don't want to load up on guns, it's OKAY. But I have seen minor civil disturbances throw guns into short supply.
NOW...TODAY....THIS MINUTE.....Colt and Browning are not on the shelves. S&W is toadying up to the gov't but they do make a fine gun. The supply is not there.

The gun you have is the only one you know you can get. Maybe I'm wrong. It wouldn't be a first.
 
While at it, might be a good idea to learn how to approximate a Russian 5.45 PSM load in .25acp (pointed 40-50gr steel-core bullet at approx. 900fps), as opposition is likely to be armored. Not exactly legal to make, so the idea is entirely theoretical...and I am not sure that all .25 designs would feed correctly or stabilize the bullet well enough. Of course, with proficiency to make face shots reliably the whole issue of penetration may be avoided.
 
About Y2038: by 2038, most computers will be 64 bit (or greater), not 32 bit, and so the number of seconds that could be stored is much larger than with most current computers. With properly written applications, the problem can be fixed by recompiling. Again, just like with Y2K, computers won't stop working although dates may look screwy and some applications will show false results if they aren't recompiled using a 64 bit compiler.

The *only* systems I would expect to have a problem would be very old imbedded systems and even then I don't expect any more problems than we saw with Y2K. The issues are almost exactly the same except that we are well forwarned for Y2038.


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I have done that a long time ago plus my ammo supply is larger.I handload so can keep a large stock with a good stock turnover.I shoot a lot

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We have a criminal jury system which is superior to any in the world;
and its efficiency is only marred by the difficulty of finding twelve men
every day who don't know anything and can't read.
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The 2038 problem is with UNIX-type operating systems, their time is measured in that way.

A recompile won't cut it. Billions of lines of code refer to it as an "int" you can't replace all the ints because many of them are used for other things, and a lot of code would RELY on the 32 bit wraparound.

Now, don't get me wrong, I doubt there'll be much UNIX around in 40 years; it's a fantastic operating system but inherently limited in ways that current/future operating systems will not be.

don't sweat it, you won't have (legal) guns by then anyway :)

Battler.
 
I love small guns. Got started when I bought a S&W M38 back in 1995 and moved smaller to a NAA Guardian and then to a Kel-Tec P32 ....

The .44 Magnum cannon you left at home twill do you no good as compared to the .32 ACP in your pocket.

And if you see anti-gun legislation coming down the road, might I suggest that instead of using that money to buy a gun (in the true "I've got mine" mentality -- you know the guy who has twenty pre-ban rifles but won't shell out the $35 for an NRA membership) and contribute that money to the GOA, NRA or whoever instead? Having a ton of guns is nice but it's not gonna be very useful when we can't own them any more (legally).

Justin


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Justin T. Huang, Esq.
late of Kennett Square, Pennsylvania
 
[NEVER MIND -- this is not the right place to get into a side discussion on computer operating systems & methodologies]

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Lavan I too am a pawnbroker in Indiana and we are stocking up on gold and silver, Its cheap right now. Oh and about the gun thing, I bought a glock 27 last week. FYI in Indiana if you have a ccp you can buy a gun w/o a NICS! So I would have been able to buy last week anyways!!!
 
I purchase Makarovs because I like them. Every time I get a few bucks, I get a new makarov. Germans, Bulgarians, Russians, I love em all. I also get 1K of ammo with each gun. Someday, somebody I love will really be glad I did. I may not live to see that day, but in our family we have two cardinal rules:
1. Never sell land (unless it is to buy more land).
2. NEVER SELL YOUR GUNS!

My dad was most adamant about rule 2. I don't know why, but my grandfather always said the same thing to us. My gunsmith gave me what may become rule 3: Don't buy a gun unless you're prepared to feed it.

These are just plain common sense rules to follow. Those 3 men have lived through the hard times, and the easy times. A lifetime of experience X3. Are there any other rules I should know about?
The Mak is cheap to own, and if you're buying ammo from the right sources, cheap to feed. It goes bang when you pull the trigger, and it is amazingly accurate. If I had a thousand bucks to blow on a gun I'd go get about 8 Maks instead of that 1911 (don't get offended. I have always dearly loved the 1911, but probably won't own one for at least five more years). I concur with Lavan. People demonstrating against our constitution and the media supporting it is a terrifying sight.
 
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