Burris Scopes?

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HandCannon32x

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How do these scopes work? Are they descent? I was planning on getting a Leupold VXII 3-9x40 but saw these. Its about 100 dollar difference so I am kinda curious on how the Burris Scopes are. Thanks
 
The two I own are crystal clear. I did have to send one back because the reticle worked loose. It was fixed and have not had a problem since.
 
I thought the fullfield II was cool when it was made in America but now its made overseas and I won't buy one.
I understand they make other models here in the US, but Cabela's for example only carries the foreign scope so they can make an extra buck.

Also you could get some parallax with the 3X9 fullfield II. I got my butt handed to me by my pops and he was shooting a steel tubed Weaver K6 wide angle from the 80's !
 
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I'm familiar with 4.

One is the top end XTR 6-24x. It is on my F-T/R rifle and is a great piece of glass. I got a price that could not be refused and saved money on the rifle build. It rains at EVERY F-class match I go to, and the scope stays sealed and clear. The adjustments are precise and repeatable.

The second is a USA made Fullfield II. 3-9x40. It is on my working .270 ADL and has been hunted and shot plenty. Bamaboy occassionally borrows the rifle these days, and in addition, w/ our 2-1/2 month gun deer season, the rig sees lots of use. No problems. As noted, the FF-II is now assembled in Japan.

The third is a Fullfield Tac -II, 3x9x40. Two of those ride on semi-M14 rifles that belong to my agency. They are primarily feral hog rifles, in and out of the vehicle frequently, riding in a trunk lid rack when stowed. Lots of slam bang. Both have remarkabley held zero with no fuss.

Compared to my Leupold VX_II and VarixII's, the only difference I notice is that the eye relief on the Burris's seems a bit more critical, the Leus seem more forgiving , but glass and durability seem equal in what I have.
 
I've had several of the FFII's and currently have 2 and I've been very happy with them. The only reason I've sold any is because I didn't have a gun to use them on. I wish I'd kept a few more of them.

All of the ones I've had have been made in the Philippines which is where they are currently made. I see an above poster accidentally stated Japan which is inaccurate. IMO in the under $400 price range this is the best choice for a scope. Once you get into the $400-500 price range you can get a Zeiss Conquest and a couple of others that are slightly better, but not double the price better.

They have great glass for the price beating out pretty much anything in the price range, and you pair this with their good durability, and their good customer support and you have a winner in my opinion. I've had many other similar priced scopes, including a few Leupold VX-I's, a VX-II, a Redfield Revolution, a couple Bushnell Elite 3200's, a Nikon Prostaff, a Nikon Monarch, and probably some others I'm forgetting.
The glass is quite a bit better than the VX-I's as is the durability. I've had an extremely high failure rate with the VX-I's I've had as have my friends. The VX-II was never mounted so I can't comment on the durability, however, the FFII had better glass still, as well as better turrets imo. The FFII blew the Redfield Revolution away glass wise, as it did to the Prostaff and the Monarch. The Elite 3200 was the only one that came close imo glass wise, and it tracked horribly, along with Bushnells horrible customer service turned me off from it. Now, don't get me wrong I think some of the above scopes are good scopes, but I don't think they are as good as the FFII.

I've had one of these on one of my hunting rifles for years, and it's held up great through tons of abuse. I really like it and it seems very durable.

The only small thing I don't like about the FFII is that the whole eye piece rotates when you change magnification. This makes the use of flip up caps nearly impossible on the ocular end. However, the new E1 models fix this, and are a better design imo. I want to get an E1 to test out, but I've not done it so far, so I can't comment too much on it other than that I know the eye piece doesn't rotate with magnification changes.

As for their customer service, while I've had relatively good luck with the scopes, I did have one with an issue. When I took it out of the box for the first time, I thought it had 2 two issues. I thought the eyepiece was looser than it should have been, and it had a spec of dirt or something inside the scope you could see. I was getting 2" groups with the gun that normally got .5" groups. I thought the eyepiece might be the cause of this. The eye piece wasn't loose, but if you pushed up or down on it hard, it would move slightly. I called them and they send me a UPS shipping label to send it in for free. I sent it in, and while waiting I discovered the eyepiece issue wasn't an issue, and that's how they all are so I'm not sure what caused my groups to open up. I had the scope back in my hands in about 2 weeks, and it still had the spec of dirt in it. I called them again, and they apologized and this time said they would not only send me another shipping label, but they would replace it this time. I sent it in again, only to have another scope back to me in about 2 weeks. This one worked perfectly. One nice thing was I'd bought the regular plex model on clearance to save $100 over the ballistic plex model, and when they replaced it they upgraded me to the ballistic plex model. I'm sure it's just what they had on hand, but it was still nice. I just can't complain about that customer service, and imo was better than Leupolds where I've had to pay to ship it in the first time, and often had to send it back for a second trip only to have it be worked on again instead of replaced.

I just can't complain about that, or anything else about the scope really. Plus if you want tactical turrets, Burris will install those for $80 which is a nice option.

The only reason I don't use these on all of my rifles, is on some of them I want other features that these don't offer like a FFP reticle, etc.

For a hunting scope if you are planning on spending under $400, these are definitely the way to go imo.
 
HandCannon 32x:
The Leoupold and the Burris are two of the best scoped in the world. I lean toward the Leupold only because I started using them forty years ago. My six Leupolds have never needed repair. I wouldn't hesitate mounting a Burris on my 375 H&H.

Semper Fi.

Gunnery sergeant
Clifford L. Hughes
USMC Retired
 
Other then jobs going overseas I don't see a quality problem with scopes being made in Japan and assembled in the Phillipines or even China. If the parts are MADE in China you want to stay away from those. Mueller has the parts (lenses etc) made in Japan and assembled in China and those are excellent scopes for the money. Scopes made in Germany and surrounding countries aren't too bad either! :D
 
Most of my scopes are Leupolds, but on the last round of scope purchases I bought a Nikon Monarch 4X16 and a Burris 4.5X14 FFII. The Nkon died rather quickly and I replaced it with a Leupold VXII 6X18. The Burris purchase was because I specifically wanted a 4.5X14 and didn't want to spend as much as a Leupold or Zeiss Conquest would cost. The Burris purchase was to see what I could get for $300. Well...I got a very nice scope for $300 and I'm very pleased with it. I don't use lens covers, so the rotating eyepiece is no issue. The only minor gripe, and it's very minor, is that the windage and elevation clicks aren't as sharp or well defined as the ones on the Leupolds. It's a bright scope and is good at dusk. Will it last as long and be as trouble free as the Leupolds I have? I guess I'll find out as the years pass. I will say that if I was going on Safari or to Alaska, spending major dollars and hunting in extreme conditions, I'd probably replace the Burris with a Leupold VXIII. I probably wouldn't need to, but I still would. I trust the Burris, but I don't trust it THAT much. Not yet.
 
I have a FFII on my Winchester Model 70.

It's a great scope, and I'm able to shoot 2" groups (I've only been shooting rifles for a year - any performance gap is from me, not the scope).

Being I'm from Colorado, Burris is my top brand, followed by vintage Redfields.
 
They make good scope. Have a couple of FFIIs, a Six Series and a 1x4 XTR with a Fast Fire on top. Happy with them all. Very clear. True adjustments. Don't lose their zero.
 
Fullfield II is a good scope for the money.

However the Vortex Diamondback is even better and comparably priced.
 
Fullfield II is a good scope for the money.

However the Vortex Diamondback is even better and comparably priced.
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I agree.

Of course with the Leupold VX-2's being replaced with a newer version and the way they are now being priced I'd still have to look hard at the VX-2.
 
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