Buried deep in S.254

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rifleman

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Hello all, I did not know that s.254 had this beauty hidden under the carpet.


...Also buried deep within S. 254 is language that for the first
time allows the police to intercept the content of electronic
communications -- the contents of pager messages -- without
a warrant. Those messages can reveal information about a
person's travel schedule, private life and current location. The
bill's "cloned pager" language is the latest expansion of
wiretap authority to be buried in a large, complex bill where
the public, which is generally skeptical about wiretapping, is
not likely to notice. "Public safety" seems to demand that the
public be protected from any opportunity to debate whether
the federal government needs more power to peek in on the
public without a search warrant.


Don't hear the media telling sheeples this little tid bit. I would think that e-mail is also at risk if this should sneek through. I have been using
ziplip.com/ for sensitive e-mails. It's free and easy. (I have no affiliation with ziplip.com)


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NRA,GOA,ISRA,JPFO
 
Hey, if you've done nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear.

Now let's see your bank statements, your will, your marriage license, driver's license and U.S. Identification card - oops, I mean your Social Security card.
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"Papers, please." (Coming from fascist countries to a place near you....)
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Thank goodness the Republicans are keeping us safe from all those Socialist Democrats.
 
they already have access to your e-m via an agreement with most internet provider's aol yahoo etc. just as most web fourm's have moderator's they have moniter's.
aol notified my sister that my nephew had been using "inappropiate language" while online. of course this was a teen fourm
of course.
 
Dennis:
Your papers. They are not in order. :D

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If what you know, isn't what you do, then your training is incomplete.
 
Boy, I hate this but I have no problem with that. Now, if it required those communications to remain unencoded to ease the eavesdropping, I would, but not otherwise.

We have laws now, some affecting cops and some everybody else, that effectively prohibit listening to a radio. Intercepting cell or cordless transmissions (sorry, that's a radio), VA and its infamous law prohibiting radar detectors (a radio reciever), stuff like that. Bull. China and Russia can have the laws prohibiting radios and/or listening to them, I don't need that. And if you have something to hide and you chit-chat about it over a cordless phone, or make your drug-dealing appointments via pagers, you're too dumb to live anyhow. Another few years and the encryptions will be absolutely unbreakable anyhow.
 
Larry,
Maybe another TFLer can confirm or deny this, but it is my understanding that it is against federal law to use ANY encryption system that the National Security Agency can NOT break.

And there are many. You and I could set one up in minutes. When there are no repeating encryptions the code can not be broken without further information.
 
As far as I know, it is illegal for any US citizen to be in possession of an encryption device. There may be some exceptions.
 
I wish that I was better at deciphering the legalese. Perhaps someone can tell me if this applies. It appears that Title 47 U.S.C. Sec. 1002 covers some of this. I found section (c) interesting, though the whole section appears to apply.

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ubi ignes est?

[This message has been edited by geneb (edited July 15, 1999).]
 
This is not good. If I am understanding this correctly. Ziplip and other services and or devices such as PGP are free game for the Komrades.

(1) expeditiously isolating and enabling the government,
pursuant to a court order or other lawful authorization, to
intercept, to the exclusion of any other communications, all wire and electronic communications carried by the carrier within a
service area to or from equipment, facilities, or services of a
subscriber of such carrier concurrently with their transmission
to or from the subscriber's equipment, facility, or service, or
at such later time as may be acceptable to the government;

Who the hell is "other lawful authorization"
pick 3 letters


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NRA,GOA,ISRA,JPFO



[This message has been edited by rifleman (edited July 16, 1999).]
 
Also buried in S254 is a section which "permits" the dealer of any firearm to "voluntarily" electronically sumbit to NICS the electronic fingerprint of any firearm purchaser. Hummmm...Just one more little step.....
 
The camel's nose already is under the tent flap in yet another respect. There are laws in some states against receiving certain radio transmissions - not voice transmissions, of course - just the "deadly" radar detector.
(head shaking here...)
If it saves just one life (gag, choke)... :(

[This message has been edited by Dennis (edited July 16, 1999).]
 
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