Bulgarian Makarov?

Model12Win

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Looks like there's been some recent imports of Bulgarian made Makarov pistols in 9x18mm Makarov and they are for sale on a few different milsurp dealer's website. Check it:

http://www.southernohiogun.com/bulgarian-makarov-pistols-unissued-condition.html

My question is... would you buy this? I love Mosin Nagants so I really like the eastern blok guns, and have been interested in them for a while. Are these Bulgarian Makarovs good guns? I might have to get one.

What do you guys think of these, and Makarovs in general?
 
If we are talking strictly for practical use, then no. A Makarov is a poor choice. Straight blowback instead of short recoil, hard to find parts, low magazine capacity, hard to obtain magazines, obscure ammunition, questionably heavy DA pull. There are much better choices at this price range for a practical handgun.

Are we talking about a range pistol for someone who likes milsurps and oddities? Hell yeah! :D

Really depends on your intended use.
 
Maks seem to come and go over the years. I'm tempted to get one but will probably pass.

I have a FEG PA-63 that fulfills my wanting of another 9x18 caliber gun and my Walther PPK longings. I rarely shoot it and can't imagine I'd shoot the Makarov any more often.

That being said it's kinda of fun to own representatives of combloc handguns.
Tokarevs, Nagant Revolvers, and Makarovs.

Ammo is available but it isn't exactly inexpensive.

9x18 = $10.95 a box
http://www.sgammo.com/catalog/pistol-ammunition/9x18-mak-ammo
 
For sure you should buy it. The Bulgarian Makarav's are very good Makarav's. The only Makarav that is better is the East German Makarav's. I have all 3 the Russian, East German & Bulgarian. When I got my Bulgarian Mak you could not really find them anymore. Mine was in great shape & the two mags match the gun. I paid $275.00 so that's a good deal. If I had ex-cash I would get one before there is no more left. They look great!!
 
The one I had some years ago was a very solid little pistol. It shot well, was perfectly reliable and was small enough to be a feasible carry pistol.

Negatives: Recoil is stout due to the blowback operation.
The heel-release for the magazine was a little different.
Heavy for its size due to the all-steel construction. That could be a positive or negative, depending on whether you're carrying or shooting.
Sights are tiny.
Capacity is on the low side for a gun that size/weight.

Would I buy one today? Probably not--I paid under $140 for mine, as I recall. It was a great deal at that price.
 
9x18_Walther said:
If we are talking strictly for practical use, then no. A Makarov is a poor choice. Straight blowback instead of short recoil, hard to find parts, low magazine capacity, hard to obtain magazines, obscure ammunition, questionably heavy DA pull. There are much better choices at this price range for a practical handgun.

Are we talking about a range pistol for someone who likes milsurps and oddities? Hell yeah!

Really depends on your intended use.

I disagree strongly with most of this post:

1)The blowback design, while it may not be commonly used today, was picked for it's simplicity and reliability, both of which are still valuable qualities today. It also allows for a fixed barrel design, which improves accuracy tremendously.
2) Parts are not that difficult to find, especially on milsurp sites like: www.buymilsurp.com, which is where I got all the parts I needed to fix my non-functioning Makarov a few years ago. There were a lot of these pistols made, and there are still plenty of parts. Inaddition, a cursory search of eBay will give you plenty of options for parts for the Makarov.
3) The Makarov has an 8 rd magazine, which is fairly normal for single stack pistols that many people choose to carry.
4) Original fagazines are easily obtainable on eBay (typically around $20-$25 each) and there are companies making replicas and aftermarket options as well.
5) While you don't find much in terms of ball ammo in stores, most big box stores will have defense ammo, and multiple options. As for FMJs, if yous local big box store doesn't have it, it can be found fairly cheaply online for steel cased wolf/brown bear varieties, which actually work very well in the Makarov.
6) The trigger pull is decent for a SA/DA pistol, but I'll give you this one.

In short, no, the Makarov is not a Glock. What you get, in my opinion, is a smaller, more compact carry option in a steel frame that will serve you just as well as any other pistol of it's size. It's a reliable, accurate shooter, even with those teeny little GI sights. With 27 parts, you should never need a gunsmith, as most people with two hands should be able to make any repairs that need to be made, aside from working on the frame. The 9x18 round is a quality defensive round, especially with great options from Hornady, BUffalo Bore, Underwood, etc for carry.

Personally, I think a Makarov is a good carry gun, but an even better bugout bag gun. The simplicity in design means that it will go for as long as you need it to. Like most Russian firearm designs, this gun was made for extreme environments, and mine has yet to disappoint from the day I fixed it.

All that said, I don't carry mine very often anymore. I have a few others that I prefer to carry, and honestly don't get to carry very often due to my work. That said, I have carried mine, and wouldn't hesitate to put it back in it's holster while I'm out tomorrow.
 
My Makarovs consist of the East German, Bulgy and a commercial Russian single-stack.
The recoil doesn't even really compare to my former, all-original "Made In West Germany" PPK/S (.380 Auto).

The DA pull on these Maks is not nearly as heavy. All three of them are more pleasant to shoot, without a doubt.
The trigger pull on each is smooth in DA, and requires extra pressure at the end of the pull.

Even with the extra pressure on the trigger, a good bit better than the PPK/S.
And the EG Mak, the best, requires a fairly constant pressure at the end.

These very clear impressions are exactly why I quickly lost interest in the PPK/S (sold it) and bought the Maks plus two Polish P-83s: the P-83's DA trigger is even better than the DA pull of the EG Mak.

$25 for an extra magazine, easily found on E-Bay, is considered expensive?:confused: Do people not know about, or pretend to be unaware of E-Bay?;)
There are plenty of spare parts with so many of the guns available. It was very rewarding to find excellent, reliable guns which are solid with no plastic. They were the standard sidearm in the Soviet Empire for many years, even issued to Spetznaz special forces.
 
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$25 for an extra magazine, easily found on E-Bay, is considered expensive? Do people not know about, or pretend to be unaware of E-Bay?

My concern is with the lack of reliable aftermarket Makarov PM magazines.

Nothing wrong with eBay, but the supply and demand is not very predicable or constant.
 
My "collection" includes pistols from all the Comblock participants that i have been able to find. I jumped on the unissued Makarev and received an as new pistol with the accompanying log book showing it's service in Slovakia. Of all these pistols the P 64 and to a lesser degree the PA 63 are the most unplesant to shoot, i have no difficulty with the rest with the CZ 82 and EG Mak being the easiest. Upon firing a couple of boxes of ammo through the new Bulgarian Mak it was accurate, functioned without a hitch, dripped grease that i missed upon cleaning and was easy on recoil. I do not carry any of the Comblock pistols as i have others for that job, however i would feel quite comfortable with any of them (except the P 64) in a self defense situation.
 
9x18_Walther Quote: said:
My concern is with the lack of reliable aftermarket Makarov PM magazines.

Nothing wrong with eBay, but the supply and demand is not very predicable or constant.

Just wondering, how are you basing that conclusion regarding reliable magazines? Which aftermarket mags have you had issues with?
 
My concern is with the lack of reliable aftermarket Makarov PM magazines.
Why in the world would you want an aftermarket Makarov magazine when the real thing is both abundant and affordable?

This is a milsurp for crying out loud - not a modern production pistol.
 
Why in the world would you want an aftermarket Makarov magazine when the real thing is both abundant and affordable?

This is a milsurp for crying out loud - not a modern production pistol.

Future availability is an issue. I really don't want to stock up on magazines.

The ProMag 10 round magazines are/were junk. They are obviously not made anymore. Any other aftermarket magazines on the market?
 
Unfortunately, I wouldn't be surprised if the importation of firearms, accessories, and parts becomes a touchy subject in the next few years.


Maybe. But these are 8 rd mags and there are already a lot of them here. My point is you can what if until the end of time.
 
Makarovs are awesome little guns, and are my favorite com-bloc pistol by a wide margin.

They are great shooters, and one is in my CCW lineup.

The more I own Maks, the more I like them.

Obviously, I would recommend buying at least one. :D
 
I say buy it. I own 2 Russian Maks. There are great reasons already mentioned, but mine is in my carry rotation because I am very accurate with it.
 
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