Buds police trade in S&W model 10

They've got an inspection period/warranty thing for used firearms- right? If so- what is there to lose?

Even if they don't have a satisfaction warranty of any sort- it's hard to go wrong with a S&W M10.
 
For $325, a good S&W revolver that's probably only been fired at qualifications is a bargain. Good choice for someone who needs a revolver for the house, or give to the kids when they're old enough.
 
You don't have a 38 revolver?

Oh, the humanity!

Those are very recently manufactured guns. Probably used by a large security guard company.

It's a 4" heavy barrel, round butt Model 10 (-18 or something) for $325. For crying out loud stop sitting on your wallet. Anyone who doesn't have fun shooting one of these isn't trying.

Have them throw in a couple of those speed loaders for $7.24 while you're at it.

PS- If it says "38 Special" on the barrel +P is fine as this ammo is not loaded beyond maximum allowable pressure. The whole "+P rated" business is utter nonsense initiated by lawyers.
 
Lol tell em Saxon!
+P means plus price, about it
It's been neutered for years, like a 4 cylinder mustang isn't a Shelby GT 350
 
According to S&W, all steel-frame K-Frame revolvers with model numbers are rated for +P ammunition so, by default, a Model 10 is fine for +P. M&P revolvers made prior to 1958 (when S&W began using model numbers) are probably still safe to fire with +P ammunition, but a steady diet of it isn't advisable.

Also, please disregard the hogwash you may be told about any .38 revolver being OK for +P ammunition. Contrary to what some may have you believe, +P ammunition is loaded to higher pressure than non +P and not every firearm is suitable for it. Even some "first quality" revolvers such as vintage aluminum-frame S&W and Colt revolvers should be fed standard pressure ammo due to their tendencies to stretch frames if fed +P.

Now, I'm sure that certain people will be along shortly to tell you about the old advertisements they have saying it's OK to shoot .38/44 ammo in small-frame guns (nevermind that these advertisements are from a company that later revised its recommendations and no longer makes DA revolvers), the hotter data in their old manuals, and the low velocity of modern +P ammo vs. the claimed velocities of yesteryear. When those people show up, ask yourself whether you'd rather trust vintage advertisements and loading manuals or the current makers of firearms and ammo who have modern pressure testing equipment to base their recommendations on. Personally, I'll err on the side of caution and trust the latter as I like my guns, eyesight, and fingers too much.
 
I just wish they had a better picture up.
Well, the gun you buy won't be the one in the picture. That's just a representative photo.

I bought one a couple of years ago from Bud's and was very satisfied with it.
 
Sounds like a very good deal. I don't have a want for one in a 4". I have a 4" heavy barrel, square butt that I bought new thirty something years ago, and it's still like the day I bought it. But oh boy! If Bud's had those RB models in a 2" I'd be all over it like a Pit Bull on a pork chop.
 
First off, don't believe that you will get a revolver that was "only shot once a year for qualification..." While I suppose that is possible, it's quite unlikely. If there's one with THAT little amount of wear, I'd bet a Bud's employee snags it.

Expect that if you have only ever bought new guns, or used guns that have been barely touched, this one has a decent chance of arriving with as much (or FAR more) exterior wear, possible neglect or even a slight bit of abuse. However, when you consider the price, and much more to the point-- when you take it out and shoot it, you'll quickly get over it's worn exterior.

It is also worth noting that Smith & Wesson does -NOT- warranty formerly issued firearms, and they will know simply by serial number that it is. And I only post this because it's true, not because I have any belief that you'll need their crack team to work on your purchase -- these revolvers are phenomenal and I doubt you'll have even a hint of a problem.

I only own a single formerly issued Model 10 and when I first got a hold of it, I did so with an evil plan to just beat the ever-loving tar out of it and see how far I could push it and abuse it so that I could see how it would respond. But I absolutely flushed that idea down the toilet after a fantastic range session with it and it truly, absolutely is one of my favorite shooters, even if it just looks like it's been treated poorly.

IMO, this is a VERY low-risk, high-reward purchase. And we have a routine around here tossing out over-used quips and corny lines. But in this case...

...since you admittedly don't own a .38 Special revolver, buying this one at $325 could be a REAL gateway and you may seriously find yourself chasing revolvers. Just don't forget to come back to this thread, quote me, and tell me how many different ways I was absolutely correct! :D
 
Is it +p rated? Even if not, for $325 that's hard to beat.

Yes the revolvers at Buds will handle +P ammo. S&W states on their website that model 10s starting in 1957 can handle +P ammo. They are steel framed and are heat treated. I have a model 10-7 4 inch and I shoot +P ammo. I don't shoot a lot of +P because of the cost and I don't reload. At $325 I would buy one in a heat beat if I didn't live in California.
Good luck
Howard
 
Gun prices sure seem to be going up a lot recently. If I remember correctly Buds' last set of police trade-in model 10's were only $240. I wish I had bought one then instead of just thinking about it.
 
This is not a "Bud's" Police turn in, but this is a Police Turn in. The M10 is a wonderful revolver to shoot. Shoots to point of aim out to 50 yards with a 158 L 3.5 grains Bullseye. I could shoot +P, but I shoot +P in 357's, I don't need to add additional stress to the revolver in a practice session. This revolver is one of the few that I can shoot double action, standing, and keep all my shots on a 12" target at 50 yards. These were about the lowest priced S&W's, but the price belies the accuracy, it is superb. These have a combination of balance, size and low recoil that is just perfect for me.



Decades ago I recall a conversation with Customer Service S&W. They told me of S&W revolvers with over 200,000 rounds, and I think they were M10's used at a particular Police training range. While the throats and barrels were obviously worn, the things were still going bang.
 
Yes, +P is loaded higher than "standard" ammo, but it is STILL well below the maximum allowable pressure for the caliber. The max was determined to be safe in any 38 revolver of good quality in good condition and +P is BELOW the max.

Hogwash, is it?

http://shootingwithhobie.blogspot.com/2009/01/p-phenomenon-by-saxonpig.html

Oh, and once again here's my 1942 M&P through which I fired 500 Remington +Ps and 600 of my own +P+s (125 JHP@1150 FPS) one weekend just for fun. It was. And nothing happened to the gun.


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