I put a 4x scope on my Buckmark last week, bought a box of Remmington "target" ammo and went to the range. After a couple of adjustments, I could consistantly hit the 1" bullseye at 25 yds with the gun on sandbags. I was dissapointed with the grouping at 50 yards- about 6"-8". I know the crosshairs never left the center of the target and suspect that I need to find other ammo. Any suggestions?
Buckmark ammo
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Chris McDermott
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22 Rimfires are notorious for liking/not liking specific brands of ammo. Go and buy a box of three or four different brands/versions and shoot them up, usually the gun will like at least one version, if not try to get some more different kinds. When you find out what the gun really likes, buy it by the case.
1" groups at 25 yards does not equal 6" to 8" groups at 50 yards. Maybe it's in the scope? My Buckmark shoots better than 6" at 50 with open sights, and I'm not that good of a pistol shot. I shoot both Federal Lightnings and Winchester Wildcats with the same results.
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bullet placement is gun control
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bullet placement is gun control
Every .22 is different. You'll have to experiment to see what your gun likes. I have a 2X scope on mine and several years ago did an ammo test with 17 different types of ammo. Number 1 was Eley Tenex with a .25" group at 25 yards. However number 2 was plain old Winchester Super X at .43". Considering the price difference, I can certianly live with a .18 bigger group. 
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WHAAT?
6"-8" at 50 yards?
No way. Nope. Sorry.
I can shoot a Buckmark Micro at better then 4" at 85+ yards 20% or better, at 6" 90% or better, and its not the gun making the error.
I haven't noticed any accuracy problems with the ammo other then elevation differences at that range.
I think it may be shooter error. A small flinch will be more noticable at longer distances. I think you want to blame it the gun or ammo when its really you.
You can let others shoot your pistol. If two others find it shoots off, then you have a pistol or ammo problem. Otherwise, you have firearm problem.
I shot a persons old rifle at the range and hit exactly where he did. He swore it was the shooter. However, after shooting mine rifle, anothers rifle, and his rifle again after changing sight alignment, it turned out that his rifle was sighted wrong to begin with.
Now, this is what you 180 degrees out from your claim. But, you can't be certain until you let someone else see what they can do with it.
Sprig
6"-8" at 50 yards?
No way. Nope. Sorry.
I can shoot a Buckmark Micro at better then 4" at 85+ yards 20% or better, at 6" 90% or better, and its not the gun making the error.
I haven't noticed any accuracy problems with the ammo other then elevation differences at that range.
I think it may be shooter error. A small flinch will be more noticable at longer distances. I think you want to blame it the gun or ammo when its really you.
You can let others shoot your pistol. If two others find it shoots off, then you have a pistol or ammo problem. Otherwise, you have firearm problem.
I shot a persons old rifle at the range and hit exactly where he did. He swore it was the shooter. However, after shooting mine rifle, anothers rifle, and his rifle again after changing sight alignment, it turned out that his rifle was sighted wrong to begin with.
Now, this is what you 180 degrees out from your claim. But, you can't be certain until you let someone else see what they can do with it.
Sprig
Sprig, with all due respect, I would normally suspect my own shooting ability (or lack of) to be the culprit, but I had my gun solidly placed on sandbags. With a 2-3 Lb. trigger pull, and being able to see the point of impact, I'm fairly certain it was not the shooter. I plan to pick up several different brands of ammo and give them a try. Thanks for all the replies.
BigTim,
Nearly everyone else was blaming ammo. However, I find it unlikely that ammo would cause that big a difference, so I went with the next likely cause. (And, hey, like I said in my post, its not the Buckmark that is causing my groups at 85+ yards to be like they are, its me. I'm certain that others could get better results.)
You seem to have an interesting problem. It appears from your posts that you believe the pistol, the ammo, and you to be capable of better accuracy.
I still think the fastest way to eliminate the shooter is to have a couple of others shoot it.
As I said earlier, I doubt its the ammo causing that MUCH error. Certainly ammo plays a role in accuracy, but not normally that much error with name brand ammo.
This leaves the firearm.
What kind of accuracy can you get with open sights?
Muleshoe may be right on when he said, "Maybe its in the scope?"
I still don't think ammo is going to solve the problem. I think you are going to have to look for other solutions.
Sprig
Nearly everyone else was blaming ammo. However, I find it unlikely that ammo would cause that big a difference, so I went with the next likely cause. (And, hey, like I said in my post, its not the Buckmark that is causing my groups at 85+ yards to be like they are, its me. I'm certain that others could get better results.)
You seem to have an interesting problem. It appears from your posts that you believe the pistol, the ammo, and you to be capable of better accuracy.
I still think the fastest way to eliminate the shooter is to have a couple of others shoot it.
As I said earlier, I doubt its the ammo causing that MUCH error. Certainly ammo plays a role in accuracy, but not normally that much error with name brand ammo.
This leaves the firearm.
What kind of accuracy can you get with open sights?
Muleshoe may be right on when he said, "Maybe its in the scope?"
I still don't think ammo is going to solve the problem. I think you are going to have to look for other solutions.
Sprig
Jonathan Chenault
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i agree with Chris you just have to try all different kinds out
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I just can't figure what could would make 1" groups at 25 yards spread to 8"ers at 50 yards. Other than the scope that is. I'm sure you've done this, but have you checked your mounts and rings to make sure the scope is not moving?
BTW, what kind of scope is it?
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[This message has been edited by muleshoe (edited June 12, 2000).]
BTW, what kind of scope is it?
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bullet placement is gun control
[This message has been edited by muleshoe (edited June 12, 2000).]
Check the barrel retaining screw. They do sometimes work loose.
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