Browning HP 22lr

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johnwilliamson062

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Anyone think there is a chance they might release one similar to their 1911?
Have been looking at their 1911 a lot and thought how great a BHP would be.
 
Hey, that IS a great idea! A really, really great idea. Somebody call Browning right away!

I looked very hard at the excellent little Browning 1911-22 but chose the full size Colt/Walther instead mainly because of the pony rollmark, even though I knew it was a phony pony. I'm not sorry since it turned out to be exactly what I wanted, a great shooting 22lr that looks so good next to my real Colt Government Model.

But a Browning Browning Hi Power 22lr? I could not resist that!
 
There are, but a conversion kit really is not equal to a good dedicated pistol. Accuracy and function always seem to be a step behind.
There have been conversions for 1911s for a long time and there are still 3+ companies making a 22lr 1911 now.
 
johnwilliamson062 said:
There are, but a conversion kit really is not equal to a good dedicated pistol. Accuracy and function always seem to be a step behind.
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Conversions are often better than dedicated pistols. One example would be the SIG Mosquito, which is widely regarded as a chunk of junk. In the 1911 realm, I currently own three 1911 conversions, from three different companies. They all function flawlessly and have more than acceptable accuracy. Even on a no-name, mongrel of a receiver, the cheapest of them makes a better pistol than a Chiappa/Puma 1911-22.

I don't think a conversion kit gives up anything to a dedicated .22 pistol. In the Hi-Power universe, I would much rather put a Ciener conversion on a "real" Hi-Power receiver than I would pay Brownings outrageous prices for a scaled-down replica.
 
Hello johnwilliamson062,,,

There are, but a conversion kit really is not equal to a good dedicated pistol. Accuracy and function always seem to be a step behind.
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I believe the owners of CZ-Kadet adapters would disagree with you,,,
I own the dedicated CZ-75B Kadet pistol in .22 LR myself,,,
But it's merely a lower with the kit pre-installed.

Every 1911 I've seen with a good name adapter worked fine,,,
It's the low-cost 1911 lookalikes that don't work well,,,
At least that's been my observation of them.

Aarond

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From what I have read, the Browning 1911 22 is in a whole different league than the SIG MOS. I am not against the zamak and similar pistols. I love hipoints, loved the p22 I had, will probably buy another P22(or sig mos, or similar). They are fun for the range, great to hand new shooters, and a cheap way to mix in some variety. I wouldn't buy any of them to model after a larger centerfire pistol I own and want to practice with on a budget. None of the larger versions of those pistols are on my buy list. I don't want a zamak 1911 or BHP.
But it's merely a lower with the kit pre-installed.
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And factory fitted. The CZ Kadet is also probably the best regarded conversion on the market.
I'm not looking for something that is just "better than an Umarex copy." I am looking for something that is as good or extremely close to as good as the original centerfire design. The JAC conversion slide is stationary for instance. If I can't find something that is near identical to the BHP in ergonomics, function, and appearance, I will almost certainly not buy anything.

I'm also looking for a dedicated gun. If I went with a conversion I would be buying a frame+parts or second pistol and tossing the original slide in the back of a safe to gather dust and rust. I have considered that possibility with a FN pistol and Ciener kit. Quite pricey and every time I look up anything on Ciener I seem to run a cross a new thread concerning infamous customer service.
 
Picked up a Ciener HP 22LR conversion kit years ago, one of my favorite rim fire handguns. Not sure how you could improve on this combination unless it was scaled down like the 1911-22 model is.

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johnwilliamson062 said:
If I can't find something that is near identical to the BHP in ergonomics, function, and appearance, I will almost certainly not buy anything.
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Merriam-Webster said:
ERGONOMICS
1
: an applied science concerned with designing and arranging things people use so that the people and things interact most efficiently and safely —called also biotechnology, human engineering, human factors
2
: the design characteristics of an object resulting especially from the application of the science of ergonomics
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Considering that ergonomics deals with the interface between people and things, I don't know how something that's 80 percent the size of the original could possibly be considered to have the same (or even similar) ergonomics. Every aspect of the grip and operation would be different.

With a Ciener conversion, the ergonomics do, indeed, remain unchanged.
 
I have both the CZ dedicated Kadet .22 pistol and the Kadet Kit conversion unit which mostly goes on my 75B, and sometimes my PCR. They shoot the same, which is excellent. When it is on the 75B I see absolutely no difference. My Kadet unit required no fitting on either pistol.
 
I have small hands. The smaller size is better for me.
The safety, mag release, and user interface with the action work very similarly on the browning 1911-22. Those are the main items of ergonomics related to design and manufacturing. I'm not buying it as a "trainer." I won't be purchasing the centerfire versions of the gun.
 
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