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ammo.crafter

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Just finished reading a review of the above captioned pistol in .380.

I wonder if this platform could handle the .357 Sig cartridge?

If so, what a sweet CCW this could be.
 
Just wanted to make sure you're talking about the 1911-380? At 85% of a full size 1911 it sounds like an interesting concept, but I think you'd lose the part interchangability of other 1911s. I bet they could make it go up to a 9mm instead of 380, but .357 sig might be a bit much pressure wise.

Also still kind of big and heavy for my taste ccw wise.
 
I wonder if this platform could handle the .357 Sig cartridge?
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Not a chance, the frame and slide aren't wide enough, and start messing with that and you lose the 85% scale which is whats unique about these to begin with.

Just wanted to make sure you're talking about the 1911-380? At 85% of a full size 1911 it sounds like an interesting concept, but I think you'd lose the part interchangability of other 1911s. I bet they could make it go up to a 9mm instead of 380, but .357 sig might be a bit much pressure wise.
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The whole point of the Browning 1911- pistols is to match the pistol frame and cartridge size, not shoehorn the largest caliber possible into a small pistol.

Also still kind of big and heavy for my taste ccw wise.
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Mainly into kel-tec pocket pistols? The brownings are a pretty handy size.
 
Not a chance, the frame and slide aren't wide enough, and start messing with that and you lose the 85% scale which is whats unique about these to begin with.
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I have an STI LS40 - handles 40 S&W nicely and is a very small, compact version of a 1911 - I don't know why such a gun can't be made to handle 9mm?
 
Skans l looked both up out of curiosity. I don't own either. The Browning has a polymer frame and is 10 oz lighter. At <18 oz with a 4"+ barrel is a very different pistol. MSRP IS double though!
 
Ooops, I missed the fact that the little 1911 had a polymer frame. Game changer, definitely.
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How is the material that the frame is made of a "game changer'? You don't believe that plastic frames can stand up to the loads induced by the 9mm or 357 Sig cartridge?
 
How is the material that the frame is made of a "game changer'? You don't believe that plastic frames can stand up to the loads induced by the 9mm or 357 Sig cartridge?
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Well, because it's a 1911 frame. If the frame rails are plastic and not reinforced somehow with steel, that could make a difference in being able to handle hotter, heavier loads.
 
Unlike most of the modern pocket pistols that chamber the snappy .380 ACP cartridge, the 1911-380 is slightly larger to better manage recoil for improved control that makes follow-up shots faster and more accurate. Ironically, its grip is thin so it feels smaller in the hand than it should. Combine that with its lightweight and it makes sense why Browning decided to offer this single-stack in a caliber useful for concealed carry. Sorry, Browning already considered 9mm only to discover that pressures exceeded the pistol’s 85-percent design’s ability to reliably function.

Read more: http://www.gunsandammo.com/first-look/first-look-browning-1911-380-2/#ixzz4CQ03UpLV
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Skans the above supports your statement that hotter, heavier loads are more than this design can reliably support.
 
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