Browning 1886 Carbine Year 1992

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bigbuck007

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Dear all,

i am a happy owner of a NIB Browning 1886 Carbine

Lever, clamps and cartridge tube are "fire coloured" but not colour case hardened. Wood has a kind of checkering

? What grade is this carbine? If any

Serial stamps are 209XX und Code NY1C7

Barrel marks on the right side are: Browning Modell 1886, Caliber .45-70 GOVT

on the left side:

Browning Arms Company Morgan .Utah & Montreal P.Q. .45-40 GOVT
Browning S.A.

There is, beside other little stamps a Belgian proof stamp for foreign arms on barrel and receiver.
There is NO made in Japan, in Belgium or USA on the carbine.

? Who really made this carbine??

Thank you for your kind help

bigbuck
 

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most were made in japan and your rifle looks like a deluxe model. i like the browning lever actions over the later winchester rifles with the added tang safety. eastbank.
 
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Excepting the much newer Italian M-1886 "Puma's" by Chiappa Arms, I've never heard of a modern Model 1886/86 made by anyone other than the Miroku Gun Co (Japan).

The M1886 Carbines were made only in 1992 & 1993.

AFAIK, all Grade II/Hi-Grade & LE's (limited editions) had, besides checkered stocks, French-Greyed receivers & gold-colored inlays - which your gun doesn't seem to have.

Any firearm, imported into a European counrty, usually carries acceptance stamps (proofmarks) of the receiving country.
Since you're evidently from Europe (Bavaria), I would think the mark(s) is/are an acceptance stamp.

Your Carbine could be a special order, a Browning European variation, a Browning display gun, or a Grade I that was customized/upgraded by a party or parties unknown - IDK.

What does the "NIB" M1886's box label state ? (pic ?)



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Whatever the origin, congrats on acquiring a real beauty!

I have a one of the standard Browning 1886 carbines and I'm really impressed with the workmanship.
 
Dear all,

Thanks so far for your hints.

Sorry the NIB rifle came with no NIB box:mad: But thats ok because the rifle for me is more important.

Again there is no made in Japan stamped. My only suspicion ist the Browning S.A. stamp - is this maybe a hint for made in Belgium??

I will remove the forehand and the stock, maybe more markings will appear.

But the most important part is ==> tomorrow we both go to the shooting range with 405 grain boolits and 65 grain swiss 3. :):)

Any additional tang safety etc. is a no no for me - period

Have a good one


bigbuck
 
Had no time to check the origin but had time for first test shooting.

405grain cast lead ball, starline brass and a good crimp, the new Swiss NC-Powder RS20 18,25gr - the result is not so bad for the beginning...


Horrido

bigbuck
 

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Dear all,

some more pics.

What do you think - is this hammer spring a clear indicator that it is a Japanes made one?

Who the hack is the manufacturer??


Greetings from
Bigbuck
 

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PetahW, pretty much said it all in post #3 above.

I would agree, Browning 1886 made by Miroku, Japan.
Customized by party unknown.

Here is some pictures of my Browning, that I took when I took it apart. As you can see, the same hammer spring set up as yours. Also the locking bolt has the exact same "NP" mark as yours.





 
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Thanky for your kind reply.

YEs it looks now that it is made in Japan. The only strange thing is why is it not marked made in Japan...

Have fun with your beauty


bigbuck
 
My Browning has the same "NP" stamped on the locking bolts. As for the "Made in Japan" rollmark, maybe that's only required on rifles destined for the U.S. I believe it is U.S. law that any rifle manufactured outside of the U.S. must have the country of origin clearly marked somewhere on the firearm if it is to be imported into the country.
Here's my 1886 carbine...
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I've got three Miroku made "Winchester/Browning" firearms. The BrowningLow Wall says "made in Japan", the Winchester High Wall says "made in Japan" and the Winchester 1886 simply says "Winchester licensee" and does not say made in Japan. It is in fact, a Miroku made gun.
 
Thanks for that sobering info.


So i really have a japanese rifle:eek::eek:

Well i do have a KAWASAKI but a japanese rifle will take some time for me to diggest

:rolleyes:One reason to buy this piece was that there was no japan branding...

Thanks for your kind help


Bigbuck
 
Thanks for that sobering info.


So i really have a japanese rifle

Well i do have a KAWASAKI but a japanese rifle will take some time for me to diggest

One reason to buy this piece was that there was no japan branding...

Thanks for your kind help
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Don't get too disappointed over it. My Miroku/Winchester 1886 will shoot five shot groups at 100yds sub 2moa. Most groups are around 1.5-1.8". Again, that's five shots, not three. It's smooth as silk and fun to shoot. I have no regrets about owning one.
 
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