Ordered a holster from Brommeland in early October 2006. After several emails over the months, he stated there is a problem with acquiring the quality leather neccesary for the holsters. Although I've been waiting patiently, 5 months seems excessive. I decided on a Brommeland holster from posts on this website and from what the Brommeland website displayed. Is anyone else having problems with this company?
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HappyGunner
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You bet problems
I have ordered belts from Gary Brommeland and I can tell you his word on when he will ship your order is nothing but a guess. Get ready for a long long wait. Also I bet he hit your credit card quickly say in 3 t0 4 weeks after you placed order. Gary likes using his customers money while they wait. You can e-mail Gary call Gary it won't speed him up any. He has a million excuses I have heard them all. Like hes busy filling orders for our fighting men in Iraq, and hes still getting his shop setup after his last move. He can't get quality hides. on and on and on. Truth is Gary just works at his own pace. BIG problem is he charges your credit card and lives off your money. This I can't deal with so I won't ever again buy anything for Gary Brommeland.
You just can't trust this guy his word is flat no good.
I highly recommend getting belts from Rafters Gun leather
http://www.raftersgunleather.com/Belts.htm
and holsters from Comp-Tac
http://www.comp-tac.com/
I have ordered belts from Gary Brommeland and I can tell you his word on when he will ship your order is nothing but a guess. Get ready for a long long wait. Also I bet he hit your credit card quickly say in 3 t0 4 weeks after you placed order. Gary likes using his customers money while they wait. You can e-mail Gary call Gary it won't speed him up any. He has a million excuses I have heard them all. Like hes busy filling orders for our fighting men in Iraq, and hes still getting his shop setup after his last move. He can't get quality hides. on and on and on. Truth is Gary just works at his own pace. BIG problem is he charges your credit card and lives off your money. This I can't deal with so I won't ever again buy anything for Gary Brommeland.
You just can't trust this guy his word is flat no good. I highly recommend getting belts from Rafters Gun leather
http://www.raftersgunleather.com/Belts.htm
and holsters from Comp-Tac
http://www.comp-tac.com/
HappyGunner
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His work is good
I am not saying anything about the quality of Gary's work. it's good. But I really don't like someone saying you will have what you ordered in 3 to 4 weeks and then 3 to 4 Months pass and still nothing. It took about a year the first time I ordered and 9 Months the second time.
And each time my credit card was charged in about the first Month.
Anyway I won't deal with anyone who lies and gives me a raw working over dealing. Most of the people I have del't with in past years have been honest and upfront If it's going to be 16 to 20 weeks like at Milt Sparks they say so. And they don't hit your credit card until they ship. 
I am not saying anything about the quality of Gary's work. it's good. But I really don't like someone saying you will have what you ordered in 3 to 4 weeks and then 3 to 4 Months pass and still nothing.
It took about a year the first time I ordered and 9 Months the second time. And each time my credit card was charged in about the first Month. Anyway I won't deal with anyone who lies and gives me a raw working over dealing. Most of the people I have del't with in past years have been honest and upfront If it's going to be 16 to 20 weeks like at Milt Sparks they say so. And they don't hit your credit card until they ship. Sharp Phil
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I have a friend who's had a belt and holster on order with Brommeland for over a year. He's been repeatedly told it's going to be done. I can't remember what he told me the original estimate was, but it was not a year.
I have no problem with someone who says, "I have no idea how long this will take," or even, "I said it was going to be four months, but I'm just too bogged down," or "There's a reason for the delay, I'm doing what I can." This can only go on for so long, however, before I think the customer is entitled to a refund of any downpayment he made.
Over the years one hears of so many knife makers and holster makers and other custom manufacturers whose completed work is absolutely top rate (I've never heard anything but praise for Brommeland's craftsmanship, for example, and the infamous knifemaker Allen Blade was said to be a fine craftsman when he actually filled his orders) but who seem to have real problems filling orders when they estimate they will fill them. This does a disservice to the customer, who is owed a realistic assessment of how long he's going to have to wait for the product one presumes he thinks he needs.
I have no problem with someone who says, "I have no idea how long this will take," or even, "I said it was going to be four months, but I'm just too bogged down," or "There's a reason for the delay, I'm doing what I can." This can only go on for so long, however, before I think the customer is entitled to a refund of any downpayment he made.
Over the years one hears of so many knife makers and holster makers and other custom manufacturers whose completed work is absolutely top rate (I've never heard anything but praise for Brommeland's craftsmanship, for example, and the infamous knifemaker Allen Blade was said to be a fine craftsman when he actually filled his orders) but who seem to have real problems filling orders when they estimate they will fill them. This does a disservice to the customer, who is owed a realistic assessment of how long he's going to have to wait for the product one presumes he thinks he needs.
Eric Larsen
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Well...like Ive said in other threads about Gary, give him a call and talk to either Remy or him and see what is up. He has had stuff thats out of his control and had no way of knowing it would further delay production of certain things.
I know....myself and 6 other makers I know of have all had problems with our Main Leather Supplier and had to return things at least 2 times in the past 6 weeks....that puts us around 8 weeks behind and have no way of predicting if and when that will happen.
Wmcc...Although I agree Andrews makes some great stuff...its recommended that you stick to the topic at hand when posting a reply to a specific subject.
My best advice to anyone who has a question with a certain maker is just keep in contact with them, thats what I tell my customers.
Shoot well and god bless
I know....myself and 6 other makers I know of have all had problems with our Main Leather Supplier and had to return things at least 2 times in the past 6 weeks....that puts us around 8 weeks behind and have no way of predicting if and when that will happen.
Wmcc...Although I agree Andrews makes some great stuff...its recommended that you stick to the topic at hand when posting a reply to a specific subject.
My best advice to anyone who has a question with a certain maker is just keep in contact with them, thats what I tell my customers.
Shoot well and god bless
HappyGunner
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It's just not right
If you don't get the OK to do so from the buyer for the seller to collect money on his or hers credit card before having the product ready to ship. IMHO is just plain not right.
Notice I am stopping short of saying it's stealing or using moneys the seller has not earned yet. But IMHO it really boils down to the the fact the seller is using someones money to live on before he earned it and thats just not right.
If you place your order with Gary Brommland or any other Belt and Holster maker and they tell you it will be six (6) to ten (10) weeks you will get your order and then quickly chargers your credit card the full amount of sale without ever asking you or telling you they are doing so. And then twelve (12) Months later you don't have your order. Something is really wrong and this is the main reason I and others are here posting what has happened to us so others in this Forum will know the real facts before they place their orders and give their credit card numbers out.
If you don't get the OK to do so from the buyer for the seller to collect money on his or hers credit card before having the product ready to ship. IMHO is just plain not right.
Notice I am stopping short of saying it's stealing or using moneys the seller has not earned yet. But IMHO it really boils down to the the fact the seller is using someones money to live on before he earned it and thats just not right. If you place your order with Gary Brommland or any other Belt and Holster maker and they tell you it will be six (6) to ten (10) weeks you will get your order and then quickly chargers your credit card the full amount of sale without ever asking you or telling you they are doing so. And then twelve (12) Months later you don't have your order.
Something is really wrong and this is the main reason I and others are here posting what has happened to us so others in this Forum will know the real facts before they place their orders and give their credit card numbers out.Eric Larsen
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Sharp Phil.... Ive talked to Gary about your friends order and he let me in on his side of this story.
It turns out your friend had a run of bad luck and got FUBAR'D in a car wreck. Laying him up for quite a while and Gary felt like giving him a break by substantially discounting his order..therefore helping him out. He told him that he would get worked in when he could.
He also ordered a rather large length belt, 54" inch, and was also notified at the time of order that this would take a very long time to get leather to accomidate the length needed to make it.
I can attest that hides that size, without brand marks, scratches and range marks are very few and far between....
On top of Gary's supplier problems, which myself and many other makers have encountered as of late and the situation with your friend....Ive been told by Gary personally that its getting done now and will ship very soon.
This is straight from Gary and am only repeating it...so dont shoot the messenger....
"Quote from Gary" "In my opinion, this is just one of the many instances in which Mr. Elmore shoots his mouth off without gathering all of the facts first! For those of you are familiar with his posts on the various forums, this should come as no surprise!"
End Quote....
Hope this clarifies things a tad.....
Anyway........
God bless and shoot well.
It turns out your friend had a run of bad luck and got FUBAR'D in a car wreck. Laying him up for quite a while and Gary felt like giving him a break by substantially discounting his order..therefore helping him out. He told him that he would get worked in when he could.
He also ordered a rather large length belt, 54" inch, and was also notified at the time of order that this would take a very long time to get leather to accomidate the length needed to make it.
I can attest that hides that size, without brand marks, scratches and range marks are very few and far between....
On top of Gary's supplier problems, which myself and many other makers have encountered as of late and the situation with your friend....Ive been told by Gary personally that its getting done now and will ship very soon.
This is straight from Gary and am only repeating it...so dont shoot the messenger....
"Quote from Gary" "In my opinion, this is just one of the many instances in which Mr. Elmore shoots his mouth off without gathering all of the facts first! For those of you are familiar with his posts on the various forums, this should come as no surprise!"
End Quote....
Hope this clarifies things a tad.....
Anyway........
God bless and shoot well.
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Sharp Phil
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So Brommeland's response to questions regarding his customer service is to insult me? I can't say I'm surprised. I'd never heard of the man until I got into an argument with him at CombatCarry, and it was pretty obvious he was too busy telling the world he was always right ever to actually hear anything to the contrary.
My friend never asked for pity and never asked Brommeland for a discount of any kind. He placed his order more than a year ago and was repeatedly promised delivery, in exactly the same way as other customers have reported. He's never been anything but patient with Gary. It's a shame Mr. Brommeland feels it's necessary to respond with vitriol when he could instead simply do his best to fill the order. That's not how I would treat an unhappy customer.
But then, does that really come as a surprise? This is not the first thread I've seen on this topic -- but I'm the problem?
I'm telling you, the firearms community does NOT need more custom and semi-custom makers (of holsters, knives, whatever) who act like they're doing their customers a favor when they complete an order. For the sake of argument, though, let's say I don't know what I'm talking about. Let's say in my friend's case, the delay is more than understandable.
That's just one customer. What about the others?
http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=167237&highlight=brommeland
My friend never asked for pity and never asked Brommeland for a discount of any kind. He placed his order more than a year ago and was repeatedly promised delivery, in exactly the same way as other customers have reported. He's never been anything but patient with Gary. It's a shame Mr. Brommeland feels it's necessary to respond with vitriol when he could instead simply do his best to fill the order. That's not how I would treat an unhappy customer.
But then, does that really come as a surprise? This is not the first thread I've seen on this topic -- but I'm the problem?
I'm telling you, the firearms community does NOT need more custom and semi-custom makers (of holsters, knives, whatever) who act like they're doing their customers a favor when they complete an order. For the sake of argument, though, let's say I don't know what I'm talking about. Let's say in my friend's case, the delay is more than understandable.
That's just one customer. What about the others?
http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=167237&highlight=brommeland
Sharp Phil
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Oh, and while we're quoting, Eric, I thought this post by T. Kanaley at the 1911forum was particularly worth repeating.
But, hey, I'm just the messenger. That's just a quote.
But, hey, I'm just the messenger. That's just a quote.
HappyGunner
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Combat Carry forum
Well when I would comment on anything in the famous or un-famous Combat Carry forum they ganged up on me quickly. Then I no longer was a member. 86ed So much for the Combat Carry forum never could understand the Combat Carry thing. Just a bunch of mall hunters IMHO.
If you want to see a really nice gun belt this is the one I picked up last Saturday from Rafters "S" when I was at their table in the Wanenmacher's Arms Show in Tulsa.
http://s168.photobucket.com/albums/u199/photobug4741/?action=view¤t=RaftersElephant.jpg
Well when I would comment on anything in the famous or un-famous Combat Carry forum they ganged up on me quickly. Then I no longer was a member. 86ed
So much for the Combat Carry forum never could understand the Combat Carry thing. Just a bunch of mall hunters IMHO.If you want to see a really nice gun belt this is the one I picked up last Saturday from Rafters "S" when I was at their table in the Wanenmacher's Arms Show in Tulsa.
http://s168.photobucket.com/albums/u199/photobug4741/?action=view¤t=RaftersElephant.jpg
HappyGunner
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BIG & FULL of people
The show was BIG and FULL of people as it always has been. There was plenty of everything I skipped last years so it was really great to have a go at it again. I was surprised that Comp-Tac skipped the show they have had lots of buyer in past shows and I wanted to try the fit of some Mag. holders. There was lots of boxs of Ammo. being sold bet the buyers had fun trucking it out to the parking lots. I parked in the old race track area and it's a good mile from there to the shows building. But even having to get around people just standing around the tables talking and dragging small children around. It was a good show.
The show was BIG and FULL of people as it always has been. There was plenty of everything I skipped last years so it was really great to have a go at it again.
I was surprised that Comp-Tac skipped the show they have had lots of buyer in past shows and I wanted to try the fit of some Mag. holders. There was lots of boxs of Ammo. being sold bet the buyers had fun trucking it out to the parking lots. I parked in the old race track area and it's a good mile from there to the shows building. But even having to get around people just standing around the tables talking and dragging small children around. It was a good show.HappyGunner, that forum never impressed my anyway. If you look around at other forums, Brommeland himself has been banned from at least one forum for running his mouth. After doing some research, I was able to put together a picture of what he is really like. I feel lucky to have gotten my money back.
sequimgunz
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Me too!
I too have had a problem getting my holster from Brommeland, and find it pretty frustrating. I ordered it on 8/15/06, paying for it on the spot with PayPal. I sent him a note asking for confirmation of my order and received a courteous reply saying they were backed up about 16 weeks. Hearing this, I just said I hoped to receive it by Christmas.
On 12/17 I sent an inquiry, stating that it had been 16 weeks and asked if Christmas delivery looked likely. I received a reply saying "it is scheduled for delivery the first half of January".
On 1/24/07 I sent another note asking, "soon?" and received a reply saying "I should be shipping it out in 10-14 days".
on 3/15 I asked, "Are we coming close? I had really hoped to have this about three months ago." and was told the order was in a "hot stack" and would be going out in a week.
Today I sent another note asking for a realistic estimate, so I'll see what happens. More and more, I feel like Charlie Brown getting ready to kick the football. I'm sure that when my holster finally arrives, I will be very happy with it, but it's highly unlikely I will ever order from Brommeland again, as it's just not worth the looooooong wait and hassle. I really don't like being a PITA by asking all the time, but every time I asked, it was beyond the time they said it would be shipped. Guess I'll just have to hunker down and hope for the best.
I too have had a problem getting my holster from Brommeland, and find it pretty frustrating. I ordered it on 8/15/06, paying for it on the spot with PayPal. I sent him a note asking for confirmation of my order and received a courteous reply saying they were backed up about 16 weeks. Hearing this, I just said I hoped to receive it by Christmas.
On 12/17 I sent an inquiry, stating that it had been 16 weeks and asked if Christmas delivery looked likely. I received a reply saying "it is scheduled for delivery the first half of January".
On 1/24/07 I sent another note asking, "soon?" and received a reply saying "I should be shipping it out in 10-14 days".
on 3/15 I asked, "Are we coming close? I had really hoped to have this about three months ago." and was told the order was in a "hot stack" and would be going out in a week.
Today I sent another note asking for a realistic estimate, so I'll see what happens. More and more, I feel like Charlie Brown getting ready to kick the football. I'm sure that when my holster finally arrives, I will be very happy with it, but it's highly unlikely I will ever order from Brommeland again, as it's just not worth the looooooong wait and hassle. I really don't like being a PITA by asking all the time, but every time I asked, it was beyond the time they said it would be shipped. Guess I'll just have to hunker down and hope for the best.
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