Broke my Glock

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Patrick Graham

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I broke the locking block on my Model 27.
The hottest loads this gun has seen were Federal American Eagle 180 gr 40's, about 1080fps. Everything else out of this gun has been under 1000fps. It looks like it's an easy fix, just drop in a new locking block. I'm still dissappointed, I was hoping for a more robust sidearm. :(

Oh well, in the mean time I guess I'll just have to figure out which 0ne of my 3 1911's to carry untill I get a new locking block.

This does sort of muddy the waters for me, I was thinking about getting a Glock 22 for IPSC, just for a little variety, I'm shooting a Kimber now.
 
Patrick,

They are robust. I think it is unusual to have a failure like yours did. Even Mercedes Benz occasionally have mechanical problems. Have you been shooting any reloads and/or lead bullets in it? I'm not placing blame, I just really want to know for my own reference. I am a very pleased G23 owner and trust my life to that gun on the job and off. I think the Glocks are one of the best choices you could make.

Best wishes,

-10CFR
 
Lemons happen.....

I've had a Sig Sauer (which a lot of TFL'ers consider to be the top production brand) break with under 500 rounds through it. Any brand, no matter what it costs will produce lemons. The point is that the better brands produce less lemons than the low quality brands on average. Still, EVERY SINGLE BRAND is going to produce some lemons. I think if you polled all Glock owners, very few would have reported the part breakage that happened on your G27.....
 
And people ask me why I need a backup?

I don't care what brand/model/caliber/etc. you carry, it can break. This holds true for any mechanical device. It's is simply doubly true for any device that involves combustion such as firearms and automobiles.

Earlier this year I was taking a pistol class from John Farnam and his brand new Glock 31 locked up tighter than Dick's hatband. The double spring assembly had completely gone FUBAR. Fortunately, John carries extras. He later reported that it took a competent gunsmith some time to fix the problem.

I trust my own pistols to the extreme but I always have a backup. I suggest you do the same. Just my thoughts.

Jack
 
Hey, sh*t happens! I know it sucks because GLOCK Inc. and thousands of GLOCK pistol followers rant and rave about how invincible these pistols are. Just a tad bit' over-rated in my book!
 
Are you sure it isn't a Beretta? I understand they are very prone to locking block failures. They fail even if you just think of shooting the gun.

Just kidding.

I was at a local shop when a guy came in with a brand new GLOCK 27 (I think that was the model) that had broken after 5 rounds. Don't remember what his specific problem was, but it was unshootable. It seems to happen regardless of brand.

Shake
 
Glock will either replace the locking block or the pistol. Either way you'll be shooting a 27 again in a couple of weeks. Sucks in the meantime.
 
Pat, just curious give us a guesstimate on how many rounds you've put through your G27?I'm currently at 3,500 in my G27 and it still pops likes it's new.Sorry to hear about your misfortunes,I'm sure GLOCK will make it right by your standards.SAFE-SHOOTING!
 
Here's the history of the little Glock.
I got it in early 1999.
It's had about 2500 rounds through it.
The hottest 40 cal loads it's ever seen were factory Federal American Eagle 180's that clocked around 1080 fps. That was just to hot to handle in that little gun. I put some 165 gr Hydra Shoks
through it and they were just about perfect to handle at about 925fps. Most of my reloads for it have been 6.6gr AA#5 with 180gr JHP's at about 890fps, that's a nice load for this little gun.
I shot the Deer Creek open IPSC match last year with the little Glock and those loads and I was going to do it again this year only with a different load. I took the litttle Glock out to the Elwood range Thursday and put two rounds of 165 gr fmj, 6.6 Power Pistol throught it and that was all she wrote.

There was one little thing.. Back around christmas of 99 I bought a KKM drop in barrel in 357 sig. The loads for it were 124gr tmj, 9gr Power Pistol. They clocked at about 1300 fps. That's just way to much to hold on to with that little gun and I only put 100 rounds of 357 through it back in Jan of 2000. That could have been it, that could have weakened the locking block. I would think that if that had weakend the block it would have broke last year while I was using it to practice IPSC. :(

There's no doubt that it's my fault, I violated the sacred trust by putting reloads through it. :(

I just ordered a locking block from Lone Wolf for $25. It's an easy fix. I might as well replace the locking block pin too.

I'm kind depressed about the whole thing because this is one of my favorite guns.. :(
 
Patrick

You're man enough to admit your little mistake to us. That makes you pretty alright in my book. Good luck with the installation. At least it's an inexpensive fix and you didn't blow up your pistol. Although I'm mostly a pocket pistol collector, I do have "big" ones too. My G27 is a favorite also. However, I do need a 9MM so bad, I an hardly stand the wait. I sure wish the Kahr MP9's would get here.

KR
 
The problem I have with the reload thing is this. If you can't shoot reloads in the gun then you can't use it for IPSC, nor can you do a lot of shooting with it.

Is the "No Reloads" rule from Glock their way of saying "Our gun isn't very robust and to prevent users from finding that out we will try to minimize the number of rounds you put through it by saying No Reloads"...???..

I was hoping for a more robust firearm, like the 1911 or Beretta 92.

:(
 
The reason firearms manufacturers do not want you to use reloads is to keep morons who dump way too much powder into the case and let fly. The honest gun makers put a comfortable margin over and above SAAMI specifications, but you will see these fools from time to time shoot loads way over proof loads and then wonder why the frames crack or the slide ends up on the roof of the gun range. Had a fella come up to me one time at a range and ask to borrow a hammer which I had. He proceeded to BEAT the action open on a Remington 700, dropped another handload in, fired, and BEAT IT OPEN AGAIN. I retreived my hammer, told the man he was dangerous and stupid, grabbed my gear as fast as I could, and told the range safety officer he'd better get control of that guy before he killed someone, and left the property quickly.
 
True, but the reason Glock and HK say "no lead bullets" is because of the polygonal barrel. Excessive lead fouling in a short period of time = increased pressure = ugly things.
 
I find it interesting that there is enough of a demand to have Lone Wolf even stocking a locking block for Glock pistols. This would indicate that either folks like shiny new locking blocks in their glocks just for the hell of it, or that there is a history of that part failing in the pistols.

Either way..Glocks are amazingly durable when you take in consideration of the rounds put through them by users throughout the world. But then sometimes, Like Mr Graham, you get a substandard part.

I still carry my Glock confidently. I haven't found a better pistol that is durable, reliable, accurate, light weight...and most important of all...can resist my "corrosive" sweat!

Sure..sometimes I "cheat" on her by carring other weapons, but I always come back to her!

Good Shooting
RED
 
Are you sure it isn't a Beretta? I understand they are very prone to locking block failures. They fail even if you just think of shooting the gun.
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You know, I heard the same thing. ;)

Seriously, all manufacturers have their lemons. Don't worry too much about it. The new locking block probably won't fail. Heck, my G19 did a double-feed today for the first time. I still have 100% confidence in it as a carry pistol. (Of course, that's nothing compared to a locking block failure.)
 
I fear that there may be a problem with the "little" series Glocks. I believe that the 357 sig rounds, all 100 of them, and the factory 40 rounds, all 100 of them, may have been what caused the locking block failure.

Like the guy said, it is strange that locking blocks for the Model 27 are readily available.

The 100 357 sig rounds weren't even loaded to full tilt boogie. All the following rounds put through the little Glock were intentionally loaded "Down" to the 900 fps level for 180 grain bullets.

Years ago they used to fire overloaded "Proof" rounds through guns. I believe the little glock would have failed a "Proof" round.

It really depresses me out because this was my favorite carry gun.

By the way, about Beretta's. I've got a 92 with 6000+ rounds through it without failure #1. This Beretta has seen "Several reloading mistakes" and it hasn't missed a beat. I'm wondering if the so called beretta locking block failures are nothing more than a defensive reaction story from glock to draw attention from glock problems.
 
Sell it and never buy another Glock as long as you live!

Everyone knows how cheap and easy to break a Glock is, your lucky to get a good year out of one without the thing breaking and thats a good one. Also, Glocks customer service is the absolute worst there is. You have a better chance haveing Rosie Odonnell and Al Gore fixing it than you do Glock.

good luck your gonna need it with that gun:)

Jason
 
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