bonesmen

College boys frequently join fraternities. The real problem is that altogether too many college boys—and girls—learn how to be good little Republicrats and Democans, but never how to do anything for the nation.
 
Now now, it is just concidence that all these people are often members of the same perverted clubs. Why should anyone get excited about the fact that out of a population of 290 million, the two contenders just happened to be in the same perverted frat club. Just like others in their families and their political and business associates. ;)
 
Well lets see, one of the finest universities in the nation has a club that picks and chooses its member among the best and brightest students there. Hmmmm can't say i am suprised that some of those members end up in positions of power/wealth. It kinda goes with being intelligent and having good connections.
 
Did you know that a crazy disproportionate number of our generals and admirals come from just two tiny colleges? They all hung out together as upperclassmen, too, after going through grotesque indoctrinations as freshmen!

Those senior military guys are up to something, I tell you! :eek:
 
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Did you know that a crazy disproportionate number of our generals and admirals come from just two tiny colleges? They all hung out together as upperclassmen, too, after going through grotesque indoctrinations as freshmen!

.... Right. But admirals and generals do not make foreign policy decisions, like invading sovereign nations, or leaving our borders wide open to swarms of people of unknown origin and intent, dope, arms and disease and export American jobs overseas while we pay the consequences. Neither do they made domestic policy decisions which directly affect us either.
 
Oh well, privilage, as noted, does tend to associate and educate via the same sources. And can be a bit exclusive, many who do attend these schools (and associated social clubs) via alternative routes, might still have some difficulty getting into the loop.
One of the aspects that is disturbing about current US politics, is how extensive and insular the privilage network has become. The 'aristocratic' criticism of Kerry/Bush, could have also been applied to the last time around of Gore/Bush.
Might as well get used to it...that's how the Republic will fade, by privilaged cronism, rather than by storm and flames.
And yes, generals and admirals (and other higher ranking officers) do unilaterally make questionable foreign policy decisions...and decisions which do affect us domestically...

Gen. Benjamin Butler
Gen. Phil Sheridan
Gen. Nelson Miles


Gen. Douglas MacArthur
Gen. Alexander Haig
Ad. Poindexter
Col. North

That kind of thing's been a constant in US history.
 
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Fascinating link from a website that is unafraid to ask the tough questions, like: "Was the Kennedy assassination actually an elaborate ritual sacrifice?"

Why should I pay for The Weekly World News when I can go read Parascope for free? :rolleyes:
 
Actually, I'd like to work for WNN, good visuals. And probably less overall fantasy than working in academia.

About the Bonesmen. Might keep in mind that, they do read (as well as their abilities allow) from the schools reading list. And one gem that's on it... is Machiavelli. So, both by background and education, these will be a group of people who are very aware that power is it's own entity, and it's own end.
The overlaid symbolism will differ, but ultimately the end will not, whether the bones are rattling Democrat or Republican.
 
And one gem that's on it... is Machiavelli.
Whoa, damning. Nick lived in an interesting time and place. Why wouldn't his works be on the reading list for any school? I had to read portions of "The Prince" and others at my UC and as far as I could tell, we had no "bonesmen".
 
Should be, but at many schools it isn't. Good yours did have it as part of the education.
Perennialist curriculums, have their moments, but in many cases are considered elitist or racist, etc...
So many colleges will by pass that kind of material as a matter of politically correct expedience. Or to avoid having to draw distinctions in the gray zones, such as the malevolent and beneficient present in such as Machiavelli and Neitzche.
Ironic, in that much of what's in this manner of reading, is the same thinking which does format the nature of power in our society. So, these rationalized exclusions in the interests of diversity, are these education or marginalization?.
Bonesmen, as such, they'll know at least the structural vocabulary of power. From the appalling or brutally pragmatic ,such as Mein Kampf or Machiavelli, to the idealistic better angels. However, competition and status, aren't especially easy to reconcile with idealism. And being offspring of power, bonesmen and those privilaged to be in like organizations, would know that...
Wolves in shining armour amongst the fold...
 
Niccolo Machiavelli lived in Florence at a time when their republic was in decline. His works should not be taken at face value. "The Prince" is satire. In it, he paints the prototype of nobility: ruthless and evil.

Like Polybius, he lived at the end of a republican era. Unlike Livy, who sought to show the desireability of the republic by looking at it's gloried past, Machiavelli did it by showing what they could expect in future leaders.
 
True...The problem with Machiavelli, is that he had sympathies to republics, but also knew that due to the situation in Florence at the time (France invading, intercity warfare etc), the republics were in trouble. The vex is, how many of us here and now, will be reaching a similar cynical accomodation? The TFL for example, seems to swing easily from idealism to cynicism.
Also, you have a good point, the "Prince" is Satire to a point, but also by many-the conduct of the nobility at the time, was also admired. The Renn/Baroque. 'men of destiny' would have been a refined goons by contemporary standards. Gattamalata and Cortez for example.
And for many today, especially those aware of political power, "The Prince", is a guidebook.
Ironically so is the Mushashi's "Book of the Five Rings".
Interesting how the rules to power change meaning, but not context.
 
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