BOHICA 50 Cal upper for AR rifles

[LDBennett]

What is the latest on BOHICA ARMS as of October 2011?

Of course the web page is down, they don't answer the phone, and in an older post they say the government is after them and forced their closure (??).

What is the latest real story? I'd like to buy some replacement parts. Did anyone buy the rights to the gun yet?

LDBennett

 

[daggertt]

bohica is still MIA; there are some rumors floating around that theyre just currently in the process of moving (expanding), that BATF shut them down (as well as supposedly all 50 cal upper manufacturers - although the other guys have stated they are aware of no such thing), or that they just sold all their stock and moved on. theres really no official word at this point. and spare parts are scarce.

my firing pin broke last week, so my gun is out of commission until i can get a new one. if anyone wants to sell me an extra id be all over it.

that being said, there are a couple of us going in on a deal to have a machinist fab some spare firing pins. the more people are involved, the cheaper they will be. we're looking to have them around $20/ piece, although right now its looking like it will be a bit more until more people express an interest.

 

[HKGuns]

I guess they were aptly named now weren't they, perhaps you should have seen this coming?

 

[50 shooter]

Daggertt,
Have you asked over on the Primal Rights forums? Some of the guys there still own the uppers and might be interested. Here's the link to the board www.primalrights.com

As for BOHICA, Chris is a POS as a salesman and in general period! I feel bad that he F'd over all of his customers with all his lying and a crappy product to boot. I think the owners need to file a class action lawsuit against him to see if you can get some of your money back.

Personally I would never fire one again after seeing another KB and what it did to the shooter. I'm sure Chris would put the blame on him just like the other guy and not his product that has been proven to have flaws in the design. Be safe and check everything before, during and after each shot fired or you could be the next victim.

 

[LDBennett]

I have found nothing wrong with the design or manufacturing of the BOHICA gun. The KABOOM in LA was the problem of the shooter not the BOHICA from what I have read. Do you close your bolt with a hammer? I certainly don't. From what I read it was a reloading problem. Remember in CA we had to shoot the 50 DTC made from 50 BMG cases. Do it wrong and the cases will fit too tightly in the chamber and the bolt will be hard to close. The evidence seems to show the gun fired out of battery as the shooter apparently attempted to close the bolt (using a hammer or force???). The other thing that appears to be part of his problem was that the firing pin was jammed forward and held there by the bolt that holds the bolt handle onto the bolt body. If the supplied bolt is changed out for a longer one then it can jam the firing pin. There is also the claim that the bolt handle bolt can be over torqued allowing it to protrude into the firing pin cavity in the bolt body touching the firing pin.

I don't know what happen and we may never but there have been no other reports of BOHICA failures that I have found. The thing about the BOHICA is that it allows more people to shoot 50 Cal as it was priced at half all the other 50 Cal guns or conversions. In my inspection of it I see nothing in the way of poor workmanship or poor design. While it may have been designed and manufactured to a price, ours shoot well and has had no problems not induced by me and has been perfectly safe. While some of you that shoot 50 Cal may have deep pockets, my partner (my son-in-law) and I don't. If it were not for the BOHICA we would not be shooting 50 Cal. We have so far derived a great amount of fun from having the BOHICA.

I never met the BOHICA owner but my dealing with them (via email and with the phone girl) were good. Our assemblage of 50 DTC stuff over time was on both sides, time wise, of the LA KABOOM. His lawyers told him to stop selling 50 DTC conversions and we were caught with 50 DTC reloading tooling but no gun. He was able to agree to a work around where he made us the 50 DTC conversion but we assumed liability. Not ideal for us but he did solve the problem and kept us from eating a bunch of reloading tooling costs (in excess of $500!)

LDBennett

 

[50 shooter]

I see that we're neighbors, I live in the high desert also over in Lancaster. Here's a link to the thread on the other KB http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2762913#Post2762913

Did you start out reloading for the 50 DTC or did you pick up your ammo from Ben down the hill in Yucaipa? He's one of only 2 people here in SoCal that I know who are loading 50 DTC other then Jerry Hazlett in OK(?). I know Ben personally and he's helped out alot of new 50 DTC owners.

Yeah the BOHICA was offered at a lower price but the other companies would answer their phones and emails. I've seen countless threads about BOHICA and their poor customer service. I'm not out to bash them but Chris has left himself out in the wind with his wild claims and flat out lies. We 50 Cal. owners have it hard enough already and don't need one of our own screwing us also. So now the bad part is what you've ended up with, an upper with no company to back it up. The only person that I can think of that would help guys out with BOHICA uppers would be Spider Firearms. Dave makes the Ferret50 uppers and is a great guy to deal with.

If you ever want to go out shooting let me know, I haven't shot in awhile and I'm jonesing to go out.

 

[Happy Killmore]

Mk-III

I don't know. When I bought my upper in 2008 they were AWESOME!!! I never had any problems. I got sent the new handle automatically. They always answered the phone. I had to sent it back because I had extraction problems and the bolt handle broke off. He fixed fast and he fixed it free. I wish they'd contacted me about the firing pin. I seem to have the old pin but never any problems. Over 30 rounds through it and no mushrooming. I oil the case of every round before firing to help extraction and still have occasional brass hang up but every round goes off first time. I'm sorry, but I really like mine and this makes me sad. Mine has only 30 rounds through it because I moved and none of the close ranges will let me shoot it.

 

[HKGuns]

Do you close your bolt with a hammer?

After posting about the irony of the name of the company I've read a lot on that CA kaboom and the closing the bolt with a hammer story was nothing but conjecture on the part of someone who saw a hammer on a bench that was being used for another purpose. It isn't the only KB with this rifle either.

When I bought my upper in 2008 they were AWESOME!!! I never had any problems.

I had to sent it back because I had extraction problems and the bolt handle broke off.

Which is it? You can't have had no problems and have had extraction issues and a bolt break off? A bolt breaking off would be a huge red flag off for me.

 

[50 shooter]

There was alot of conjecture about the first KB on that BOHICA, Chris blamed the owner by trying to claim he was beating the bolt handle down with a hammer. He also tried to fault his loads, looking at the pics of his reloads there were Q's about the primers not being seated right.

With all the problems people had with Chris, he never once took responsibility for his lack of answering phone calls and emails. That and firing pin troubles that plagued every model of BOHICA made.