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L.A. City Council Bans "Silly String"

YOU'LL GET MY SILLY STRING WHEN YOU PRY IT FROM MY COLD DEAD FINGERS!

No, we haven't seen that bumper sticker yet. But it may be coming soon.

On August 17, the Los Angeles city council voted to outlaw the use of "silly string" on Halloween.

Yes, silly string -- that gooey, brightly-colored, string-like aerosol foam that kids, party goers and other celebrants spray on each other.

Hey, stop laughing! This is a serious matter.

Just ask Councilman Tom LaBonge, sponsor of the ban.

"It's not silly at all," he told critics. Indeed, LaBonge says the ban is about serious stuff like stopping violence and protecting the environment.

The use of silly string, LaBonge and the anti-string forces say, sometimes starts fights at Halloween parties. "People get a little crazed at the end of the evening, and they shoot the spray into each other's faces," explained a spokeswoman for LaBonge.

(Which suggests a second bumper sticker: SILLY STRING DOESN'T START FIGHTS -- PEOPLE DO.)

And some environmentalists charge that the stuff isn't biodegradable, and when it drains from (government-owned) streets into the ocean, it harms marine life.

LaBonge's fellow commissioners hailed the ban and voted 10-0 in favor. The council now must approve the ordinance one more time for it to become law.

Violators will face fines of up to $1,000.

Of course, the Halloween ban is only the opening round.

As Councilman Bernard Parks told a local TV station: "We have the same problem during the Martin Luther King Jr. parade and a variety of open events that create a major clean-up problem once the event is over. I would like to see if we could expand this."

First Halloween, then. every day? First Los Angeles, then... the rest of America?

Get those bumper stickers ready.

WHEN SILLY STRING IS OUTLAWED, ONLY CRIMINALS AND GOVERNMENT WILL HAVE SILLY STRING.

(Sources: Reuters:
http://www.enn.com/news/2004-08-19/s_26609.asp
NBC4TV:
http://www.nbc4.tv/news/3661058/detail.html )
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Are these covered by the Second Amendment?
 
Spray paint and markers in the wrong hand can create beautiful damage like murals and pictures, but what's not beautiful is when they paint a mural on someone's house or building who didn't want it there. Now as far as the Communist State of California, they should stop feeding their kids so they won't be fat and the skinny kids won't make fun of them because this causes violence and fights break out. Also they should ban driving in Los Angeles traffic because this is bad for the enviroment. They should also outlaw pimples, glasses, and wearing pants too high because this causes violence and psychological maladies in kids that get picked on. More and More towards Comunism, is our progress every time one of these stupid little laws comes out. I live in Miami and work with a man that just got here from Cuba two years ago, and I read him some of the political threads started here, he starts to laugh and say I should have stayed in Cuba; at least there communism might end soon and here it will start after a decade or so. :D
 
They already have a littering ordinance, but the problem there is that the fine starts at $1,000, so LAPD cops never actually write tickets for it, and Silly String litter is what prompted this ban.

The same thing will undoubtedly happen with this ordinance.

Casp_A - join the Free State Project come to New Hampshire, we need more people like you.
 
Hmmm...

Looks interesting. I'm in, or at least I'd be in, if I was a real person. :( But that all changes in January! :D Signed up for the news letter though.
 
join the Free State Project come to New Hampshire
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Drove through New Hampshire yesterday on my way back from Maine....the first thing I see upon entering the state via I95 was a big sign admonishing me for not buckling up. Free state, indeed....
 
They already have a littering ordinance, but the problem there is that the fine starts at $1,000, so LAPD cops never actually write tickets for it, and Silly String litter is what prompted this ban.
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I suppose out of a gesture of kindness from city council member Comrade Shmuckatelli, the fine will be halved to $500. And then police ossifers will actually write tickets for it. And that's, as always, how the people will come to accept the tryanny.
 
Drove through New Hampshire yesterday on my way back from Maine....the first thing I see upon entering the state via I95 was a big sign admonishing me for not buckling up. Free state, indeed....

That's just nagging - it has no force of law in New Hampshire for adults. Not primary enforcement, not secondary enforcement - no enforcement at all.

Compare it to the signs on the border of New York State, and then let's talk about the definition of a Free State. :D

http://www.reasontofreedom.com/indexfsp.html

The greeting signs on the sparse, hilly terrain on the SW edge of the state declare:

* No handheld cellphones.
* No radar detectors.
* Seatbelts mandatory.
* Helmets mandatory.
* State speed limit 55 (65 on the Interstate, by the legislature’s extreme tolerance).
* Aircraft used in speed enforcement (!) (Like putting speedtraps in Siberia)
* Move over for police vehicles or else.
* Injure a highway worker (even if he jumps in front of you), "you in a heap o’trouble, boy."
* Fines doubled in work areas.
* Felony to transport a firearm.
* Don’t drink (Perrier?) and drive.
* No facilities at most rest stops, so don’t even think about pissing in the bushes.
* No dogs allowed, lock down small children in back seat at all times.
* Drunk driving, you can’t afford it.
* No one-fingered waving at police officers.
* Do not speed up, slow down, move out of your lane, or fall asleep while reading these signs.
* Ignorance of the law is punishable by death.

Welcome to New York, mother flockers! You sleazy would-be miscreants!
 
I read the memoir on that site, mvpel. Apparently the author has negative feelings about places that punish drunk driving, but applaud communities where growing pot, sleeping with each other's spouses, and wandering around in labyrinths searching for "truth" are considered acceptable activities. And the fact that the "Freestaters" haven't taught their daughter that talking to strangers is dangerous speaks volumes of the naiveté typical with communal living and other cults. We may have ridiculous laws against cell phones and radar detectors, but at least our young'uns know not to have lengthy chat sessions with shadowy strangers in the middle of the forest.

Searching for a middle-ground here....
 
Apparently fyrestarter thinks growing pot is unacceptable.

Interestinly enough George Washington (who used cannabis to relieve dental pains) would disagree. So would the bible, as Cannabis was used in the Temple.

Wandering in labirynths looking for 'truth'? First amendment.

Swinging? I don't like it, but then some people don't like guns, either.

'A civilized society is one which tolerates eccentricity to the point of doubtful sanity.' - Robert Frost
 
Apparently fyrestarter thinks growing pot is unacceptable
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No, not apparently. Absolutely. And a 2000-year old book of fairytales is hardly justification for illicit drug use.

I just don't think that a bunch of societal malcontents strolling through the woods smoking dope and swapping wives is quite what the founding fathers foresaw as a "free society". Like I said, I'm sure there's a middle ground between Kalifornia and Funkytown.

"Savage peoples are ruled by passion, civilized peoples by the mind."
-- Carl von Clausewitz

"Civilization begins with order, grows with liberty, and dies with chaos."
-- Will Durant
 
While this is an absolute thread hijack, didn't the Founders use it? Specifically, as I say again, Washington grew and used marijuana. His diaries contain descriptions of breeding the plant to increase the content of the oil (is it and oil? I'm not sure) that contains THC. The state of Virginia at the time fined people for not growing cannabis/hemp on their farms.


'A prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded.' - Abraham Lincoln (not a founder, but still)

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." US Constitution. Now, where does FedGov gain regulatory authority on drugs?


False is the idea of utility... that would take fire from men because it burns, and water because one may drown in it; that has no remedy for evils, except the destruction of liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson

"There are just two rules of governance in a free society: Mind your own business. Keep your hands to yourself."
-- P.J. O'Rourke (1993)

"An ye harm no one, do as ye will. This is the whole of the law."
-- Wiccan Creed
 
Washington grew and used marijuana
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Yeah, apparently he harvested the oil for painkilling? Well, in case you haven't been paying attention, we have more than enough drugs on the market available for such an application. The side effect of THC as a pain reliever is a nation of zombies. The last thing we need in this country is another substance used for altering reality -- we have enough trouble with heroin, crack, coke, E, meth, and a host of other drugs that turn our cities and towns into warzones and transform citizens into morons. Think of thousands of people killed each year by drunk drivers -- and you want to add pot into the mix? Brilliant. Regardless of the "facts" you have about the founding fathers, Washington didn't sit around with Jefferson toking on a bong and scarfing down Twinkies. That's the problem with Libertarians -- of all the freedoms to pick to defend, freedom to sit around abusing drugs is the least acceptable to the majority of civilized Americans. Put your energies into abolishing the Federal Income Tax, and leave the wacky weed to the washed up hippies and zoned out college students.

End of thread hijack. :)
 
Here's a fact for you: It is very hard to die from extasy. The substance is only harmful to a small number of people with certain medical conditions. And drugs turn the cities into warzones to the same extent that guns do it. They don't. Just as alcohol didn't cause the Valentine's day Massacre.

One wonders why marijuana is legal in Switzeland, yet the violence rate is half the on the in the United States. But that is aside of the point.

My body, fyrestarter, belongs to me. My life belongs to me. And as long as I am not violating your right, I have the God-given, natural, inalienable right to pursue happiness in anyway I choose. That includes extasy, heroin or worshipping Barney the Purple Dinosaur.

Freedom, Fyrestarter, is not about 'acceptable behavior'. Freedom, above all else, is about practising behavior that others deem un-PC, as long as it harms nobody else.

So, Fyrestarter, do you own my body?
 
Halloween

L.A. City Council hasn't banned eggs yet have they?

Sometimes the old ways of old days are still best.

We threw eggs. I learned that hardboiled eggs don't break as easy. Makes things easier when running and sniping, don't break in hand when throwing - and this means greater throwing distance.

One cannot start too early on learning "strategies and tactics" . :)

There is much truth to " a little guy can beat a big bully, if the little guy is in the right , and keeps his offensive up". :D

< angelic smile here>
 
Here's a fact for you: It is very hard to die from extasy. The substance is only harmful to a small number of people with certain medical conditions.
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Ummmm yeah, if you assume that all extacy on the market is made to exacting conditions in a lab with the same controls as any perscription drug. Under those circumstances extacy still has the potential for nearly instant fatality in the wrong person and severe medical reactions in many others, these reactions can not be anticipated either.

And the fact is that extacy is cooked up by the sort of guys that you wouldnt let serve your food at McDonalds.

I can tell that you have never seen a bad extacy reaction before simply because it is not something that you can easily forget. There is just something about a fourteen year old girl in otherwise perfect health experiencing uncontrolable contractions and intracranial hemmoriaging that sticks with one's memory.
 
Toking and shooting don't mix. Remember the joints don't come out untill the shooting is done.

OK I figured someone had to mention firearms in here before the moderators descend like turkey vultures on a dead possum.
 
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