Blagojevich is at it again

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dZ

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Lawmaker wants U.S. ban on palm-sized guns

Updated 2:10 PM ET July 17, 2000

CHICAGO (Reuters) - A member of Congress Monday launched a drive to ban the possession and sale of "pocket rockets," handguns so small they fit in the
palm of a hand but powerful enough to easily maim and kill.

Rep. Rod Blagojevich, an Illinois Democrat, told a news conference there is "some hope" in the next Congress for compromises on various gun issues and he
was throwing his proposed ban into the volatile mix.

Despite their size, he said, the high caliber, semiautomatic guns have three times the fire power of standard-issue handguns, have become a favorite of street
gangs and have been heavily promoted in areas that have relaxed laws to allow the carrying of concealed weapons.

"They are nothing more than a pocket full of death waiting to happen ... killing power shrunk down to pocket size," said Tom Diaz of the Washington-based
Violence Policy Center who wrote a report on the weapons he and Blagojevich released at the news conference.

The bill would ban the possession or transfer of any handgun less than seven and one-half inches long and capable of holding two or more rounds of
ammunition. It would not apply to law enforcement officers and would allow people who owned such guns before the law went into effect to keep them.

The report said Austria's Glock coined the phrase "pocket rocket" for its small 9 millimeter model but similar guns are now being made by almost all weapons
manufacturers worldwide. h
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by dZ: ... The bill would ban the possession or transfer of any handgun less than seven and one-half inches long and capable of holding two or more rounds of ammunition ... [/quote]This would, in effect, cancel out CCW permits because not many people can successful carry a firearm 7.5 inches in length -- especially during the warmer months or in the warmer parts of the country.
 
This crap wouldn't just cancel CCW pieces... it bans ALL pistols except for old flintlocks and single-shot caplocks.

"More than two rounds." Jeezis Frikkin Kryst, who does this idiot Blago-whatever think he is? :mad:

[This message has been edited by Coinneach (edited July 17, 2000).]
 
Same old strategy: propose outlandish restrictions that have no chance of passing, then call for a "compromise". Blagojevich (and others) do this every session. They have absolutely nothing to lose, and it costs them nothing.

Fine. Here's our counter-offer: repeal all gun control laws, all the way back to NFA '34. Pass the Second Amendment Restoration Act of 2000, which will finally put into words not even a lawyer or a second-grader can convolute, the guarantees we should have had all along (don't ask me what those words might be. This is a rough draft). Abolish BATF. Pass a law making it treason to attempt to introduce further gun control legislation.

Now, let's find a happy medium. I'm willing to give up the part about treason. Don't want to compromise? Extremist!!
 
Blagojevich is also responcible for the heat on 50bmg rifles
http://www.house.gov/waxman/doc/50cal.htm
Long-Range Fifty Caliber Sniper Weapons
Prepared for:

Rep. Rod R. Blagojevich
Ranking Minority Member
Subcommittee on National Security
Veterans Affairs, and International Relations
Committee on Government Reform

Rep. Henry A. Waxman
Ranking Minority Member
Committee on Government Reform

Minority Staff Report
Committee on Government Reform
U.S. House of Representatives

May 3, 1999

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http://www.vpc.org/studies/pockintr.htm
Pocket Rockets

The Gun Industry's Sale of Increased Killing Power

Introduction

"If someone carries weapons concealed, he must really be looking for or expecting trouble instead of avoiding it
(whether they were carried legally or not)."

—Jim Grover, "Don't Be a Victim!," Guns & Ammo1 (emphasis in original)

On August 10, 1999, self-proclaimed white supremacist Buford O. Furrow, Jr., walked into the North Valley Jewish Community Center in
Granada Hills, California, and started shooting. He wounded three children, a teenage counselor, and a receptionist. Shortly thereafter, he
happened upon and killed postal employee Joseph Santos Ileto. Furrow reportedly confessed that he killed Ileto, a Filipino-American, as a
"target of opportunity."2

The carnage that Furrow wreaked that day reflects many facets of America's gun violence problem.a This report addresses one of those
aspects: his use in the Ileto murder of a Glock Model 26 9mm semiautomatic pistol—the premier "pocket rocket."3

Because pocket rockets are so easily hidden on the person, they are ideal tools for such criminal use against "targets of opportunity." Their
portability also increases the risk for indiscriminate use by previously law-abiding citizens thrust into moments of anger, depression, or other
emotional instability.

Glock—whose guns are manufactured in Austria and imported into the United States through facilities in Smyrna, Georgia—coined the term
"pocket rocket" in a 1995 press release introducing its Model 26.4 The gun press and at least one other manufacturer have since
appropriated the term.5 It describes small semiautomatic pistols in higher calibers (9mm and above), of which the Glock pistol was among
the first.b These easily concealed pistols have been a "hot" item in gun industry marketing ever since.

1996 Glock Catalog


Pocket rockets are a dangerous new ingredient in America's firearms brew. Reports by the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and
Firearms (ATF) and others show that handguns move relatively quickly from the legal trade in firearms into the hands of criminals and
youths. Predictably, crime gun tracing data show that as manufacturers have heavily marketed pocket rockets, these tiny but deadly pistols
are moving into criminal use at a dramatically increasing rate. (See Figure One.)

The industry has heavily promoted pocket rockets in connection with a wave of new or revised state laws that permit licensed persons to
carry concealed firearms.6 Pocket rockets are a prime example of how the firearms industry has exploited increased lethality—greater killing
power—over the last several decades to boost sales in its saturated markets.7

In those same decades, firearms, especially handguns, have inflicted a torrent of death and injury on Americans. (See Figure Two.) In 1997
(the latest year for which complete data are available) 32,436 Americans died of firearm injuries.8 Suicides accounted for the majority of
those deaths (17,566). Since 1978 suicide has been the largest category of firearms fatality. (The use of a firearm greatly increases the
chance of success in a suicide attempt.) Homicides consistently rank second in firearm deaths and handguns consistently account for
about 70 percent of firearm homicides in the United States.

This carnage inflicts incalculable human anguish and imposes a substantial burden on the nation's health care system. On average, the
medical cost of each gunshot injury is about $17,000 and taxpayers end up paying for 49 percent of the lifetime costs of those injuries.9


Figure One: "Pocket Rockets" Traced to Crime Scenes by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, 1995-1997
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>... have three times the fire power of standard-issue handguns ...[/quote]What's that supposed to mean?
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>"If someone carries weapons concealed, he must really be looking for or expecting trouble instead of avoiding it
(whether they were carried legally or not)."

—Jim Grover, "Don't Be a Victim!," Guns & Ammo (emphasis in original)[/quote]
Is Mr. Grover really this stupid? For that matter, is he still gracing the pages of G&A with such insightful observations? With friends like these ...

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>"Guns that can be easily concealed are more likely to be carried on the person. They are convenient for use by criminals like Buford Furrow ... "[/quote] Of course, this doesn't support their argument very well when you consider the reports that Furrow had "... in addition to the Uzi look-alike from China, Furrow's arsenal also included a Glock 9mm pistol, two Egyptian-manufactured assault rifle and one Bushmaster AR-15." [per http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a37d1920a5f7b.htm ]


But, of course, this isn't a serious discussion. This is a political fabrication designed to marginalize, segment, divide and conquer, ...

So, let me see now ... I'm trying to keep up here. We have 'Saturday Night Specials' (originally containing a very unattractive racist term in that description), 'Sniper Rifles', 'Assault Weapons', 'Pocket Rockets' and ... I'm sure I'm missing something here, but perhaps you'll remember another bigoted term?

Yes, soon we'll be able to enact a few, reasonable gun control laws, as a compromise mind you, and eliminate all of these bad guns. We'll only have left those good guns ... probably a bolt-action, single-shot .22 rimfire - but, no scope. ;) If you're a member of a shooting club. In southern Texas. During the summer. Weekends only. Fully licensed and registered, of course. For a $500 annual fee.

These anti-self defense gun bigots are so transparent ... but sadly, the average person doesn't see these lies as so obvious.

Regards from AZ
 
My God a .22 Are you crazy. Those are the evil small bullets that are not effective against adaults. Therefor thier only use is to kill children. How dare you even think of owning one! We must Ban these child killing nightmares. In the Name of G-d do it for the Children.
 
It just ain't never gonna end, is it?

We're being painted into a corner, inch by inch. It's enough to drive a person to despair, unless that person is a criminal or a politician (there's usually not much of difference).

I stopped reading this forum a while back because it was depressing me too GD much; I've only recently started regularly reading it again. I think it may be time to take another break. I want to enjoy my life, and I'll be damned if idiots like this are going to turn me into some ill-humored, depressed, humanity hater. This is no game to me--I take this stuff seriously and I can't just turn it off and veg out in front of the tube. Maybe some of you can, but I can't. Hell, I even noticed a change between me and my wife when I was reading this forum daily.

Don't get me wrong, I will still keep up on current events, but I can only stand so much negative news before it starts affecting my life. I'll still maintain my memberships in the various RKBA organizations I've joined, but I need a break.
DAL

P.S. And for all of you anti-gun types and G-thugs, F**K YOU!


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I was wondering that myself--what do they consider a "standard-issue handgun? Nobody has ever issued me one, first of all, but if you mean a handgun that's often issued by police and military organizations, I think my P220 qualifies. So which "pocket rocket" carries 24 rounds of .45? Or is it 8 rounds of a cartridge three times as powerful as .45?

Where can I buy it?

Blagojevich is a complete ass. The best thing was when one a candidate in Illinois raffled off a .50-caliber rifle and called it a "Blagojevich Special."
 
me thinks the "benchmark standard" is a .38 special revolver.

a gun with 3 times the firepower would be a glock with an 18 round magazine

of course these post ban magazines are LEO only

but lets not let the facts get in the way of a good sheeple stampede

dZ
 
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