BHP or CZ75 or 92FS I can't decide

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I want to get another 9mm, it will be a range/home defense pistol. I want something very accurate with reasonably priced hi-caps available (just can't justify $90+ for Glock hi-caps). I've read individual threads but wanted to see if anyone has had all 3 and what their opinions were I've fired both BHP and 92 and the only con for either is that I'd have to get used to the SA BHP. btw has anyone tried a BHP with the SFS from Cylinder and Slide ? Any Ideas?
 
Hello. I've owned all three and currently still have the Hi Powers.
Such is subjective, however, and my choice might not be the right choice for you. IF you can actually buy a HP now, I'd go for it as they can be quite difficult to find. OEM magazines can still be had via Novak's for 3 @ $105 or so, certainly a better price than original Glock magazines. You can also find surplus Inglis magazines that work fine as well as the KRD 17-rnd magazines that work well by most accounts.

The BHP is accurate, reliable, and comfortable in my opinion. Today's guns are hampered a bit by generally heavy triggers, but this can be remedied.

Best.
 
Never owned or fired a BHP. But, just by holding them at the gunshops, I don't like the "feel". Carried the Beretta as a Air Force MP. I am not very accurate with this firearm, but there again, I don't like its feel. Do own a CZ75B and love it. For me this gun has excellent ergonomics, and my accuracy reflects this. Basically what I am saying is, get what feels and works best for you.
 
gee spooker, that's a tough call. I have the BHP. I'm lusting after the other too.

In order of price I think the Browning would be highest, they are hard to find around the Louisville area. The Beretta and the CZ75 each are equally available but the CZ is always cheaper.

All 3 should have plenty of available high cap mags at reasonable prices. I have seen used Berettas at Knob Creek during the Machine Gun shoot for $25. CZs should be plentiful too.

[edited because I can't type worth a darn tonight!]
 
You can't go wrong with any of the three. All three are quality guns IMO. Best advice is to go with what feels comfortable to you. I've owned all three and for me the CZ points and fits my hand the best and that is what I still have left in the gunsafe. However the call of owning another BHP which also fits my hand well, has been strong. It's a tough decision to choose one over the other...

Rick
 
I have all three, and it would be a hard choice. All three can be equally accurate, depending on the particular gun. I personally like the HP the best, but if I had to boil it down to one for nightstand duty, it would be the Beretta because of the decocker feature on the safety.

That being said, I myself have a Glock with night sights beside my bed.
 
spooker, one thing no one has touched on yet. You mentioned this was going to be a home defense gun as well. Are you the only defender? Or is there a Mrs. Spooker to consider here?

If so you may want to take her with you. What works for you may be impossible to operate for her.
 
CZ etc

The CZ75 is now available in a "D" model, with decocker. There is also a Double Action Only model and a Compact and "melted" compact. They cost from $50 to $150 more than the CZ75B. Most of the 75B's you see for around $350+/- were 90's manufacture with a polymer finish and were apparently ordered for the Turkish military - then the contract was cancelled.
 
Sadly the Compact chambered in 40 S&W and the Compact Carry (Melt) won't be offered. CZ has decided not to release them and have dropped them from the website also. :confused:

Rick
 
MY CHOICES (BASED ON YOUR CHOICES)

1) CZ75, because I don't want a decocker, I want cocked-and-locked.

2) Beretta 92, because it may be the most reliable pick-up-and-shoot handgun.

3) BHP, bottom of list because I have ZERO desire for a gun with a magazine disconnect. Zero.
 
I would love to get a High Power, but since I don't have one, I will only comment on the CZ and the Beretta.

Since concealability isn't an issue, either will suit your purpose.

Mags for both the CZ and the Beretta can be had for 35.00 or so..

The Beretta is BIG(in relative terms, especially for a 9MM), if that is an issue for you.

I prefer the CZ double action trigger pull, but once again, the gun fits me better-did I mention the Beretta is BIG?

Single action is similar-in my particular guns.

I personally prefer my CZ over my Beretta as I like "cocked and locked"-my primary weapon is a 1911 .45. Decocker is a plus for the Beretta, if that is your preference.

Either way, you are getting a quality handgun that will not do you wrong.
 
Also, with the military version of the CZ. Besides having the very tough and durable polymer finish, the metal is parkerized before the polymer finish is applied. Glad I bought mine when the shop had them for $299.
 
Get the one that fits your hand the best and is the least expensive at the time you purchase. Then you'll have more $$ for those hi-caps to go with it. Any of the ones you've mentioned will be fine for what you intend.
Personally, I went with the 92fs...they just "work" for me. :D
 
BHP mag disconnect easily removed

Weshhoot2,

Go to FNhipower.com and you will see instructions on how to easily remove the magazine disconnect. It also greatly improves the trigger.
 
Aware of disconnect removal.

For MY hand, the HP just doesn't fit (not even close).

I own three EAA Witnesses, two 'small' and one 'large' frame. These would be my choice, and the ones I would advise. BUT, it's not for my hand.

The 92 is a stunningly reliable gun.
The HP has history.
The CZ has history, too.
Of the three, I have no doubt the CZ is both the toughest and the most combat-capable, but the hand that must be fit is someone elses.

And without question the best one to still get mags for is the CZ.
I'd advise the 9x19 CZ75.
 
I own all three of these. Don't worry, they're all top notch guns. Just get the one that fits your hand the best.

* If you might ever use the gun for CCW, get the BHP, it really is much smaller for carry. *
 
I have all three too...

...but it's like comparing apples, oranges and strawberrys. They're all different guns.

The BHP is SA only. You either carry it cocked and locked or hammer down. HiCaps are readily available and cheap. I've had a mid 70's Capitan, (which I traded. D@mn!), and now own the current Standard model w/ adj. sights. I hear a lot of folks complain about the trigger, but other than having the mag safety removed, the trigger on mine is stock. Trigger pull is more than the CZ and Beretta, but it's fine by me. Honestly, I prefer the earlier models, but the fit and finish of the current model is actually superior to earlier models, IMO. It's the most expensive of the three also.

The Beretta 92FS is DA/SA. It has a decocker. It's also a BIG pistol. The biggest of the three. But, since the frame is an aluminum alloy, it's the lightest of the three. Ironically, at least with mine, it's the easiest to rack the slide on, of the three. The DA trigger is loooong, but the SA trigger is nice and the lightest of the three. HiCaps are also easy and cheap to obtain. If you plan on upgrading the sights, get the Brigadier model. The slide is beefier and you can have your new front sights dovetailed in. The 'base' model has permanent front sight and the slide doesn't have enought metal to dovetail. It's the next one, expense wise.

THe CZ75 is also DA/SA, but it can be carried cocked and locked or hammer down. DA trigger is much nicer than the Beretta but the SA trigger falls between Beretta and the BHP. It's also a tank. All steel construction. HiCaps are cheap, and the military model comes w/ a 15 rounder as well as a 10 rnd mag NIB. The sights are the worst, (IMHO only. No flames, please!) of the three but should be easy to upgrade. As the cheapest, by a wide margin, of the three, it's easily the best value. Don't let it's price fool you. The CZ75 is every bit as high a quality weapon as the Beretta or BHP! The Czechs are world renowned for producing high quality goods!

All three are very accurate, out of the box. The BHP is the most readily customized and has "History and Tradition". The Beretta is the current service pistol for our armed forces, so that definitely says something. The CZ75 is used by armed forces and police forces worldwide and is one of the most copied designs ever. You basically can't go wrong with any of the three.

It basically boils down to what you can afford, what feels good in you hand, and, if you are able to, which you shoot best. Good luck.!
 
I have the BHP and love it because I love 1911s. I like the fact that the controls are the same as a 1911(minus the grip safety, of course).

As stated earlier, the trigger was crappy before I had the mag disconnect removed. A little trigger work later and while the pull is a lot heavier than my 1911s, it breaks clean.

My vote goes to the BHP, all the way. The other guns are quality, just not what floats my boat.
 
If ccw is a issue, the hipower is hard to beat. I am probably in the minority but I consider the magazine disconnect to be an advantage. I know that removing it will help the trigger, but from a civil liability issue, if it is ever brought up in court that you had a safety device removed from your weapon it may not look good---especially if most of the juriors are not gun knowledgeable. I am not aware of anyone that was killed or injuried because of a mag disconnect feature in place and not being able to fire a weapon with the mag removed (wartime would be an exception). I am aware of one specific occasion when this feature did save an officer's life(S&W 59). And unfortuniately I am also aware of several accidents that have occoured with people removing a magazine from a pistol believing that they had unloaded it but forgetting to clear the chamber(one local glock shooter is now nic-named hip-shot).
If ccw is not an issue, the cz is a great weapon that offers accuracy and reliability in my experience that is on par with the hipower. A great double action trigger with the option of condition one carry.
The beretta is just a bit too large for me and a damaged front sight on a beretta is not an easy fix.
 
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