Best way to sell ammo? Can I ship it?

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I saw the thread about the best way to sell guns, and I wanted to get some pointers on how to sell ammo. I ended up stockpiling way to much in the past year, and now I have ammo in calibers that I no longer own guns (rifle and handgun).

I guess the main questions are:

1) should I list it on an auction site like gunbroker or gunsamerica? I'll
likely post here in the forums too.
2) should I try to sell it to private individuals?
3) can I even ship ammo legally. UPS is pretty clear on regulations regarding
shipping firearms (you must ship to or from an FFL or manufacturer), but
they aren't very clear on ammo (other than the fact that it must be
shipped separately from firearms and be marked appropriately.

http://www.ups.com/content/us/en/resources/ship/packaging/guidelines/firearms.html

Thank you!
 
I used to get ammo in the mail but that stopped in 2008. Since then I have gotten ammo from Fed Ex, DHL and UPS. I have never had a problem with any of them. I get most of my ammunition that way because I am disabled and don't leave home much anymore. However I have 2 ranges on my property and I shoot as my major form of recreation. Since I don't drink, smoke, use recreational pharmaceuticals or run around with wild women I can afford to do that.

Sometimes I wonder if it was my old mailman that got them to stop shipping ammo in the mail. Some of those packages were a real load for him to hand over to me and even worse trying to get out of the mailbox. :D
 
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just buy a flat rate box and ship it. whos gunna know lol.
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If you're talking about the USPS Priority Mail Flat Rate Box, shipping ammo via US mail is a Serious Legal No-No; we're talking about doing time in federal prison here. :eek: Adding "LOL" doesn't magically make it OK to advocate committing federal crimes on a public forum. :rolleyes: No hard feelings.

Here's the particulars of shipping loaded ammunition, in a nutshell.
  1. Shipment via US Mail is illegal, PERIOD, end of story. (There are NO FFL EXCEPTIONS, unlike shipping firearms.)
  2. Ammo must normally be shipped ground via a common carrier like UPS, FedEx, or DHL. Shipments going to or from AK and HI are substantially more expensive than shipments within the CONUS; be aware of this when agreeing to a shipping charge!
  3. Do NOT attempt to ship ammo internationally! It can be seriously bad mojo without the correct licenses and permits! :(
  4. Domestic ammo shipments must be contained in a sturdy cardboard box marked with an ORM-D label saying "AMMUNITION - SMALL ARMS". (You can download appropriate labels online.) AFAIK there is a new labeling system that has just been instituted to replace the old ORM-D system, but the old labels can still be used for a few years; if someone with more knowledge knows the specifics, I'd appreciate being filled in.
  5. Ammo going to IL or NJ may only be shipped to someone with a valid FOID card. Get a copy from the seller and file it away; otherwise you may get a nasty surprise if you're ever pulled over for a traffic violation there. :eek:
  6. AFAIK ammo shipments to MA may only go to FFL holders.
  7. If you are an FFL holder, ammo may only be shipped to someone 18 or older, and ammo for a handgun may only be shipped to someone 21 or older. FWIW in this case, "for a handgun" means "you reasonably believe it will be used in a handgun", not "it's a commonplace handgun caliber"; in other words, 9mm for a Marlin Camp Carbine is kosher, but .30-30 for a T/C Contender pistol is not. (It's really a stupid law, but I digress.)
  8. In any case, for CYA reasons, if the buyer is not personally known to you, I would recommend only shipping to people 18 and older, and keeping a copy of their state-issued picture ID for a few years.
Mandatory disclaimer: I am not an attorney, nor do I play one on TV. ;) This is not official legal advice. Caveat emptor.
 
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Thank you. That was a very informative response. I really like the suggestion of keeping a copy of the recipient's license on file. Great idea I wouldn't have though of.

My only remaining concern is that I read on one site that you need to be licensed to ship "hazardous materials." However, that was not a USPS or FEdEx site, so I don't know if this is true. I'll have to investigate further and let you know what I find out. Please let me know if anyone has any knowledge about this.
 
Correction!

Domestic ammo shipments must be contained in a sturdy cardboard box marked with an ORM-D label saying "AMMUNITION - SMALL ARMS".
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Ooops- I meant "CARTRIDGES - SMALL ARMS".

Brain fade, ya know. ;)
since when can people not joke about doing illegal things, is that a rule on this forum?
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Actually yes, I believe it is a rule here, and the mods enforce it as such. :) Cheers!
 
My only remaining concern is that I read on one site that you need to be licensed to ship "hazardous materials." However, that was not a USPS or FEdEx site, so I don't know if this is true.
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ORM-D commodities are essentially exempt from the licensing rules. The basic idea behind ORM-D is that some commonplace items may technically contain hazardous materials, but it's packaged in a highly safe consumer-friendly container (e.g. firearms cartridges in the factory packaging, aerosol cans, automotive chemicals, batteries, etc.), so it's highly unlikely to pose a danger during shipment.

As I mentioned before, there is a new "diamond" labeling system that is being phased in, and I don't understand the new rules. AFAIK UPS and FedEx are still allowing ORM-D labeled packages until the new rules are completely implemented in a year or two. I recommend calling customer service.
 
With all the hassles of shipping it anywhere .....just sell it locally ...

It would be way less trouble and aggravation ..../and I'm assuming its all factory ammo. If its reloads you made / I wouldn't recommend you sell it at all.../ and recycle it instead ( pull the bullets, etc )...
 
I think the question has been adequately answered.

For the record, federal crimes are pretty serious. One might say that they're no joking matter.

Another thing to consider. The social aspect is part of what makes TFL fun and interesting but "the discussion and advancement of responsible firearms ownership" is the true focus of TFL. Which means if you don't have something meaningful to add to a particular discussion then it's a good idea to avoid posting on that discussion.
 
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