best non firearms defense

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im thinking mostly in college, where our security guards with mighty maglights are the only thing weve got. No guns allowed. Theyll even terminate enrollment of off duty police who chose to carry. Wondering, what do i have left for weapons? fist? pen?
 
Depends.

If concealability is an issue, I'd get the biggest knife you can conceal.

If concealability is not an issue, I'd go with the machete. Worldwide, the machete is at least as popular a weapon as the firearm. I don't know much about non-firearm weapons, but I'm guessing that that many machete owners can't be wrong.

Since you intend to use it as a weapon, if you decide to go with a machete, get one with a clip point so that you can thrust with it as well as hack.
 
A good mindset.


Followed by a knife and some sort of 'slower downer' :D Mace comes to mind. A machette seems great for a primal offense, but if someone is jumping me last thing I want to be doing is hacking away and possibly hitting myself.

Look up coldsteel special projects. They have a lot of various weapons for decent price.
 
I use a rusty tire iron. I would take that over a knife in any fight, although I didn't carry it around with me, just kept it in my truck. As far as concealed defensive measures go, I use a knife, but there are a wide variety of options, such as pepper spray, tasers, and others. I wonder if experts would recommend any of the alternatives to knives and firearms, and why. I would be interested in this, because you can't always have a firearm.
 
Speaking from someone who is in college and cant cc like he should, I carry a Blackhawk pocket folder under 3 inches (legal to cc in VA), as well as my Blackhawk Gladius mounted to my bag... Since I go to school in Norfolk, it seems only right to carry Blackhawk gear :p Support your local businesses... who make their stuff everywhere else......
Mace is a no-go in the super windy Tidewater area.
Tazers and stun guns I believe are also banned.
 
Bowie knife, TASER, baseball bat, pepper spray, brick, large nasty dog, friend with a gun, all of the above.

Seriously, NOTHING equals a gun. Lobby the school officials until they see the light of reality.
 
they wont even authorize pepper spray for school security. school rulebook doesnt prohibit pepper spray though, so i carry a kimber guardian angel around. it bans knives, but culinary arts students carrya set of like 20. Bad guys tote guns...oh well 1.5 more years there
 
The slidy hitty copy things...

Lol i can't remember what they're called, some police have them. There was a previous thread about concealing them. I've thought about getting one for on campus, they are a Telescoping stick with a heavy (small) ball on them (not a morning star lol) Use that to molly-wop the bad guys!!!!
 
ASP!

It's called an ASP!

The first one, not the 2nd one.

Well maybe the 2nd one, might be risky if you have a pet hamster that you frequently touch.
 

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Mace/OC spray, knife, or an asp (depending on what's allowed). Make sure you get some combative training on whatever you use.
 
alot of excellant choices already mentioned

But I just had a funny thought of seeing Jesus being attacked by a bad guy and pulling out the old can of Hair spray and a bic lighter and torching him to death across the campus as he screams......:D
hehehehe Sorry I couldn't resist....
 
But I just had a funny thought of seeing Jesus being attacked by a bad guy

Yea, but Jesus would just pull a miracle out of his pocket and whap it on the BG. HEY! That's it! Carry Jesus in your pocket. Better than carrying a cop.
 
While I was living in an apartment complex that didn't allow guns, my main home security was a nice aluminum baseball bat, a machete, and various other small sharp things throughout the apartment..........and (no I'm not kidding) a crossbow with a red-dot sight. My apartment was situated in a position where even if I missed and the bolt went through a wall, there were no other apartments close enough to be in danger.

My favorite small hand-to-hand instrument I have is basically a small wooden club about 3/4 of a foot long and about the diameter of a real thick rolling pin. In fact it kind of looks like a short one-handled rolling pin. Makes sense, I think I "borrowed" it from my high school H&H class, though I think it was actually an old meat tenderizer or something. Hey I never said I was a saint.;)

On a more serious note, the best thing I'd suggest would be to take either some boxing or Krav Maga classes. If something happens that requires some violent action to keep you safe, you shouldn't have to be reaching for a weapon and wasting time. If you happen to also have a weapon on you, your chances can only improve. No reason to leave yourself helpless just because you can't have a firearm.
 
While I was living in an apartment complex that didn't allow guns,
Well you will be happy to hear that in Virginia (where I notice you're from), a part of a renters agreement that bans you from allowing a firearm in said housing is legally void. IE even if you sign that paper and still carry a gun anyway, they cant arrest you and they cant evict you.
§ 55-248.9. Prohibited provisions in rental agreements.
Check A.6 http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+55-248.9
Gota love VA... :p
 
Yeah I know, those little details that you learn later instead of sooner.:) That was actually several years ago and it was only after I moved away from that apartment that I was smart enough to look those kinds of things up. Still, it was always kind of fun looking over and seeing a crossbow leaned up against the wall :D
 
I know you said knifes aren't allowed but since it's your butt on the line here's one that's supposed to work...they even say it's great for security guards... :)

http://www.waspknife.com/

This little toy injects a basketball sized ball of CO2 into the BG at 800psi, instantly freezing internal organs and ending the fight with one quick stab...or so the ad says. Great for knife fights with Grizzly bears... :D

Milspec
 
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