"best" autoloader? Rem 1100/1187 or MB 930/935 or other...

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I've read about a million posts on the 1100 and the 1187 in two days. Are there any thoughts on how they compare to the Mossberg autos? Specifically the 930 and the 935. Also, is there any comparision to the Stoegers, Benillis, or any other auto using the Inertia system?

I'm looking for a deer and turkey gun, since I hunt on post. I already have a "raced up" 1100 for the house.

Thanks for the information.
 
The 1100 was the first widely used gas auto, and serves as the standard. Of the gas autos now marketed, it may be the easiest to clean. Inertia autos are also easy to clean, but have no kick reduction. The Benellis have a rep for being reliable,except in sand and dust.

If an 1100 serves as a house gun, getting another so you have just one set of chops makes lots of sense.
 
I've got a benelli auto loader. It's the M1 field model. Great gun, not much kick at all and has NEVER failed to fire or chamber the next round no matter where I'm using it. I've got probably 5000 rounds through it too. Just take a look at them, they are pricey but worth it.
 
my only issue with buying another 1100 is it does not chamber 3" shells. not that one absolutely needs them when turkey hunting, right? oh, the other issue is the 1100 is about 100-200 more than the Mossberg 930 or 935.

I'll check out the Benelli's, even though they are pricey I've never heard a bad thing about them. On that note, since Stoeger uses the same system is the price difference worth it (see above 1100 vs. 930/935)? Price isn't an issue, but why spend more when you don't have to?
 
Get an 1100 magnum with two barrels. Though I've never had the need for 3" shells, I do have the option...
Mike
 
Only an opinion, but I've never had a failure with either my 1100 or my 11-87 They are flawless in performance, and at half the price of Benelli's. Why spend more if you don't have to?
 
I've fired both the 1187 (fantastic semiauto shotgun) and the Benelli Black Eagle II (also fantastic).

MustangDan's comment on price is pretty much my sentiments also - although the Black Eagle might have a slight edge for sheer excellent of construction and finish, all 1187s I've handled (five or six) have been 90-95% of that quality at 50% of the price. I've never had one exhibit any sign of a problem, at all. The math favors the Remington.

I still regret not buying an 1187 Super Magnum with one of the prettiest wood stocks I've ever seen... dang.

Never fired a Mossberg semiauto, though. Good luck!
 
I have a 1187 SPS Super Mag...
Chambers and fires and cycles everything from 2 3/4 to 3 1/2. It will make you think of your 1100 when you pick it up it can just do more and doesn't weigh has much.
 
I agree with Bonstrosity....take a look at the M1 Fields. I love mine with its 24" barrel. I got it before they were discontinued and replaced by the M2 and seem to be coming down in price. I only have about 2000 rounds through mine, but I also have yet to have any failures or malfunctions of any kind.
 
So no one has fired a Mossberg auto? I know the MB pumps compare directly with the REM pumps, and depending on who you talk to, are actually better than the REMs.

I'm all about getting the most gun for my money, which is why I'm leaning towards the 1100 or 1187, but for $200 less the MB autos are available.

My dad, and I've put about a 1000 rounds through it, has an 1100 sitting in the closet at home. He had the stock custom fit for him (coincedentally it fits me perfectly also) and I don't remember ever cleaning the old gun and neither one of us has had a jam. I might just ask him about buying it from him...
 
I had a Mossberg 935. It worked fine with 3.0" magnums and 3.5" magnums, but did and does NOT cycle with 2.75" shells. Which is why I sold it (primarily). However, mossberg does not claim otherwise, so they are not to blame. IINM, right on the side it says 12 ga 3 and 3.5. I know it says this in the manual. I am currently just about to buy a Mossy 930 since I othewise had a good experience with the 935. It will shoot 2.75 & 3", and I can see no possible need for 3.5" shells for my uses. The 930, #85225 is the one I'm getting, and it's perfect for an ALL-purpose gun, with 24" bbl, and comes with 4 chokes (3 plus an ultra-full turkey), and a removable rear sight. The price is right, too of course. It's a poor-man's NWTF model Super X2. I dunno about 'best' though. I do trust Mossberg to make a reliable gun - I also really like my 500A pump, so I don't hesitate to try to the new 930.

http://www.mossberg.com/930 a.loader.htm
 
thanks for the info on the 935. I've read some other posts on anther website about them. Some jamming issues, exploding receiver (one), not firing out of the box, etc. All problems were remedied by MB after about a week. Apparently the service department is excellent, but it begs the question why it has to be...
 
Best autoloader?

I have a Remington 1100 skeet, I have friends with other 1100's and one with an 1187 all are fine dependable guns, others with Benelli's and Berettas seem to feel the same about theirs.

I think if you choose the gun to suit the ammo you wish to use i.e. 2 3/4" 3" 3 1/2" then you should be ok, if you want a gun for target use (1oz is the norm in UK) then a gun that the makers produce for that purpose will give you excellant service, however using a 3 1/2" magnum with these light target loads cause problems. If you are in the USA why not support your own industry and go for an 1100 or 1187?
 
The Remington 1100/11-87 family have 50 years of solid service behind them.

The Remingtons are gas operated 870s which are pump-operated 11-48s which are modified Auto-5s....that is to say they are essentially modified-for-ease-of-production Browning designs. Which is the reason they've worked well for 50 YEARS NOW.

The Mossberg autos are not comparable to their 500/590 pumps...which are modified Remington 31s which are side-ejecting 17s (as in Ithaca 37s)...you see the Browning lineage again? JMB not responsible for plastic parts and shoddy mfg., though.

A semi-auto shotgun is one of the most difficult of all firearms to design...Mossberg has been trying for a reliable & durable semi-auto shotgun for DECADES and HAS NOT YET SUCCEEDED.

Yes, you'll pay more for that Remington, but you'll be getting your money's worth.
 
i've discounted the Mossbergs because I don't like the way they feel. Too wide. I have decided on the Stoeger Model 2000 Combo: 24" fully rifled cantilever deer barrel, and a 28" smooth barrel with 5 screw in chokes all for under $600. :D It fits, has good balance and no one I have talked to on this forum or any other, and at the local gun shops have had any problems or heard anything bad about the Stoegers. It is inertia driven (under the barrel, as opposed to inside the stock like the Benelli it is derived from (stoeger is also the parent company for Benelli and Franchi)). So, unless I can find a good used 1100 or 1187 (my dad's comes to mind) for around $300 :eek: , you can't beat the deal because a cantilever deer barrel alone costs $300 (which is more than a NEW 870 :mad: ).

After I get back from Iraq in October and put a thousand rounds or so through the Stoeger (slugs and bird loads) I'll post a nice long data base on it.:)
 
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