Berreta - why so little buzz?
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The 8045 Cougar is a little smaller than the 92 and fires 8+1 rounds of .45 ACP. Or the Mini 8045 which is a full inch shorter.
It would be great if they made the 92 series in .45 ACP, because I think they lose business to Taurus and their 945 (very similar, but not open slide).
It would be great if they made the 92 series in .45 ACP, because I think they lose business to Taurus and their 945 (very similar, but not open slide).
Personally I haven't really cared for them.(92's) The only one I saw that I really liked enough to buy was the now discontinued EL.
I think you're wrong though about lack of traffic about em. There's a bunch of folks here that rave about them,,,and a very, very few that talk down about them. My impression is that they are a good serviceable arm, well suited to the task, but a tad large for the 9mm and a tad small for the .40, a tad overpriced because of the name, and a tad short on variants.
I think you're wrong though about lack of traffic about em. There's a bunch of folks here that rave about them,,,and a very, very few that talk down about them. My impression is that they are a good serviceable arm, well suited to the task, but a tad large for the 9mm and a tad small for the .40, a tad overpriced because of the name, and a tad short on variants.
Gabe ,
I did a search here at TFL for Beretta, and got 6763 returns. So I would have to say someone is talking about them.
BTW I love my 92 FS INOX. It has been pure joy owning this pistol.
I have close to 7000 rounds through mine and it still looks LNIB inside and out.
As to Accessorys, theres all kinds of em for beretta's. Also there is no shortage of Hi-Caps.
This gun is accurate, has never had a FTE or FTF, Eat's all type's of ammo, looks great, and is sooo easy to break down for cleaning. Thats a tough act to follow. The only real con is that its on the large side for CCW.
Here is a picture of mine.
Tony
I did a search here at TFL for Beretta, and got 6763 returns. So I would have to say someone is talking about them.
BTW I love my 92 FS INOX. It has been pure joy owning this pistol.
I have close to 7000 rounds through mine and it still looks LNIB inside and out.
As to Accessorys, theres all kinds of em for beretta's. Also there is no shortage of Hi-Caps.
This gun is accurate, has never had a FTE or FTF, Eat's all type's of ammo, looks great, and is sooo easy to break down for cleaning. Thats a tough act to follow. The only real con is that its on the large side for CCW.
Here is a picture of mine.
Tony
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BrokenArrow
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Heck, that's just what the 40 (and 357SIG) do in any gun! 
That's B-E-R-E-T-T-A , one R, 2 T's 
There was an Elite II on the March/April issue of American Handgunner, and Combat Handguns recently had an Earnest Langdon (LTT) customized EII on the cover. The U22 is featured on the cover of this month's American Rifleman!
Variants?
DA/SA w/thumb safety-decocker (FS-models)
DA/SA w/decocker (G-models)
DAO
SA w/all steel frame (the Billenium)
Single stack variant (type L)
compact models
Brigadiers (w/heavier slide & dovetailed front sight, + the Elite versions)
Vertec's (reconfigured grip w/accessory rail, Elites [E1A's] to be released soon)
...and these are just the 92/96 models!
Cougars (9mm, 40cal, 357Sig, 45ACP) Cheetahs (380's & 22's), 9000's (9mm & 40cal), and a new plinker-grade 22 (U22)
OK Gabe, just WHERE have you been looking?
www.berettaforum.com
Russ
There was an Elite II on the March/April issue of American Handgunner, and Combat Handguns recently had an Earnest Langdon (LTT) customized EII on the cover. The U22 is featured on the cover of this month's American Rifleman!
Variants?
DA/SA w/thumb safety-decocker (FS-models)
DA/SA w/decocker (G-models)
DAO
SA w/all steel frame (the Billenium)
Single stack variant (type L)
compact models
Brigadiers (w/heavier slide & dovetailed front sight, + the Elite versions)
Vertec's (reconfigured grip w/accessory rail, Elites [E1A's] to be released soon)
...and these are just the 92/96 models!
Cougars (9mm, 40cal, 357Sig, 45ACP) Cheetahs (380's & 22's), 9000's (9mm & 40cal), and a new plinker-grade 22 (U22)
OK Gabe, just WHERE have you been looking?
www.berettaforum.com
Russ
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Peter M. Eick
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Why should there be a buzz....
My 96 has always worked, off the cuff I cannot remember it failing to feed and fire. My wife shoots it the most and got her CCW with it. It is reliable and has a long trigger pull.
I think the key is it works, it does not blow up and it is not accurate enough for most target shooters to talk about. My 210-6 or my Baer 1911's will run circles around it on the target range, but the 96 goes backpacking with me and those guns do not.
My 96 has always worked, off the cuff I cannot remember it failing to feed and fire. My wife shoots it the most and got her CCW with it. It is reliable and has a long trigger pull.
I think the key is it works, it does not blow up and it is not accurate enough for most target shooters to talk about. My 210-6 or my Baer 1911's will run circles around it on the target range, but the 96 goes backpacking with me and those guns do not.
coltjeeper
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I LOVE MINE TOO!
I just got another one recently (a 92FS with Crimson Trace laser grips with the Beretta logo). I've been without a Beretta for sometime now (I had about 5 or 6 over the years). I had the high-caps but no pistol! So I finally decided to get another one when I got such a good deal on this combo with the laser.
I didn't really need the laser, in fact they are for sale if any one wants them. Just email me.
But this particular pistol is AMAZINGLY accurate. My first Beretta that I had years ago was this accurate. I was hitting pop cans at about 80 yards Saturday for giggles. I don't ever shoot at that range, but I just wanted to see what it would do. To say the least, I was amazed!
And if anyone starts bringing up locking blocks I'm going to
:barf:
I just got another one recently (a 92FS with Crimson Trace laser grips with the Beretta logo). I've been without a Beretta for sometime now (I had about 5 or 6 over the years). I had the high-caps but no pistol! So I finally decided to get another one when I got such a good deal on this combo with the laser.
I didn't really need the laser, in fact they are for sale if any one wants them.
Just email me.But this particular pistol is AMAZINGLY accurate. My first Beretta that I had years ago was this accurate. I was hitting pop cans at about 80 yards Saturday for giggles. I don't ever shoot at that range, but I just wanted to see what it would do. To say the least, I was amazed!
And if anyone starts bringing up locking blocks I'm going to
:barf:
I have a 92D (DAO) Centurion that I absolutely love. The DAO trigger on it is better than any I have ever felt on any revolver, including Colt Pythons and those that have been worked on by gunsmiths. It is extremely accurate, reliable and to me represents the best of both worlds; high capacity and simplicity all rolled into one. Never understood why this concept didn't catch on with more folks.
Alabaster Jones
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Burretuhs (How's that for spelling? Bet you still get the point though, eh?) Are not that money. I'd go for a Taurus 92 first. At least they mount the safety on the frame for us normal American shooters. Not to mention the warranty : Lifetime of the gun, not the original owner, and plenty of finishes to boot. Let us not forget how adamant Taurus is about the 2nd Amendment. Beretta, HK and a few other Euro trash (Politically, not quality )companies almost seem ready for a police state if you ask me. Taurus even agreed to supply the pilots with free guns if they would be allowed to carry. That's good sh*t. We need more people who spit in the face of PC bleeding hearts. any ways, sorry for the tangent. Please take a look at Taurus if you decide to buy. Keep in mind, however, they don't accept any Beretta aftermarket goodies, that may weigh heavy on your decision, I don't know.
Yep, Russ is right, that's B-E-R-E-T-T-A, as opposed to B-A-R-E-T-T-A which is a little known make of carry gun that will automatically leave itself in the last restaurant you were in. I hear the company is soon to come out with a shrinking leather glove too...
The Berettas are nice to the point where I wouldn't mind a Brigadier Elite, but the truth is what do they do that a CZ doesn't do for less $$$? Or a Glock for that matter. To big to carry all the time, especially in 9x19. I remember them being more popular around here when you could walk into a surplus store and find a whole box of used military hi-caps for 10-15 bucks a pop. Now they're a tad more spendy. Lack of custom parts don't help either, there is a reason everybody wants a 1911 type or a Glock, everybody makes parts and works on those guns, they're the std, while Beretta is a niche.
Now to see Beretta done right you have to find one of their .22 autos from about 20 years ago, beautiful little guns.
The Berettas are nice to the point where I wouldn't mind a Brigadier Elite, but the truth is what do they do that a CZ doesn't do for less $$$? Or a Glock for that matter. To big to carry all the time, especially in 9x19. I remember them being more popular around here when you could walk into a surplus store and find a whole box of used military hi-caps for 10-15 bucks a pop. Now they're a tad more spendy. Lack of custom parts don't help either, there is a reason everybody wants a 1911 type or a Glock, everybody makes parts and works on those guns, they're the std, while Beretta is a niche.
Now to see Beretta done right you have to find one of their .22 autos from about 20 years ago, beautiful little guns.
Jamie Young
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I don't know where you've been. Just look at any movie out nowadays. Everyone has a B-E-R-E-T-T-A in action movies.
BrokenArrow
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Excuse me, but when asked to make a deal like the deal S&W made, Mr. Beretta flew all the way over from Italy to tell them face to face, not just "no" but "**** no!".
In my experience w the older BHP/P-35 and Beretta/M9s, if ya shoot nothing but +P or NATO mil-spec, the locking block on the pizza pistol and the slide or frame or frame lug on the BHP give out about the same time, around 20,000 rounds. Only costs about $50 bucks to replace the block and ya can keep going for another 20,000 rounds. Stick to std pressure SAAMI loads, the BHP is good for about 50,000 rounds, the Beretta twice that. There are always exceptions, and I'm sure somebody's mileage will vary... I hear the newer BHPs are tougher than the older ones were.
Yeah, yeah, I know about all the bitchin' about broken M9s in the military. The USAF base here has on avg >30,000 rounds through it's training guns, have never broken a slide/frame, rarely break a block, never under 15,000 rounds. Some folks get better guns & ammo, or some take better care of em, or some are just lucky?
If they were as bad as some think, would the LAPD and LASO have stuck w them for over 15 yrs? They have had less reliability problems w their Berettas than the NYPD has had w their Glocks.
In my experience w the older BHP/P-35 and Beretta/M9s, if ya shoot nothing but +P or NATO mil-spec, the locking block on the pizza pistol and the slide or frame or frame lug on the BHP give out about the same time, around 20,000 rounds. Only costs about $50 bucks to replace the block and ya can keep going for another 20,000 rounds. Stick to std pressure SAAMI loads, the BHP is good for about 50,000 rounds, the Beretta twice that. There are always exceptions, and I'm sure somebody's mileage will vary... I hear the newer BHPs are tougher than the older ones were.
Yeah, yeah, I know about all the bitchin' about broken M9s in the military. The USAF base here has on avg >30,000 rounds through it's training guns, have never broken a slide/frame, rarely break a block, never under 15,000 rounds. Some folks get better guns & ammo, or some take better care of em, or some are just lucky?
If they were as bad as some think, would the LAPD and LASO have stuck w them for over 15 yrs? They have had less reliability problems w their Berettas than the NYPD has had w their Glocks.
9mmepiphany
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for super accurate beretta custom parts or work you can take a look at www.coolguyguns.com there is some serious and radical custom work there.
for the ultimate combat pistol work, take a look at www.langdontactical.com
my current personal carry piece is a beretta 96fs (.40) which i picked over a glock 22 and sig 229 due to superior accuracy, less recoil and greater reliability. i have yet to experience a FTF or FTE in serveral thousand rounds...might have somthing to do with that HUGH ejection port
my only regret was not getting the "G" model
for the ultimate combat pistol work, take a look at www.langdontactical.com
my current personal carry piece is a beretta 96fs (.40) which i picked over a glock 22 and sig 229 due to superior accuracy, less recoil and greater reliability. i have yet to experience a FTF or FTE in serveral thousand rounds...might have somthing to do with that HUGH ejection port
my only regret was not getting the "G" model
While talking with my manager, today, about his experiences (10 years, including combat/peacekeeping in Sri Lanka and postings all over India) as an Infantry Captain in the Indian Army, ending in 1994, I asked what they carried for a sidearm. Beretta 92 he said and went on to complain about how they always jammed becasue crud always got into the open top of the slide.
He also said the Gurkas were TOUGH, had to be treated with agreat deal more respect than regular troops and were not to be left alone with women!
He also said the Gurkas were TOUGH, had to be treated with agreat deal more respect than regular troops and were not to be left alone with women!
BrokenArrow
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Funny, I was issued a M9 for 11 yrs, had it full of sand and mud plenty of times, always worked. Musta been an operator problem?
As open as it is, has passed mil-spec sand/mud tests over and over again and again all over the world...
I can tell you the unit I was in that tranisitioned from the M1911A1 to the M9 in the mid 80s had better relaibility with the pizza pistol than old slabsides in the desert we were in at the time. Ya never know?
As open as it is, has passed mil-spec sand/mud tests over and over again and again all over the world...
I can tell you the unit I was in that tranisitioned from the M1911A1 to the M9 in the mid 80s had better relaibility with the pizza pistol than old slabsides in the desert we were in at the time. Ya never know?
I honestly feel that the fine line of CZ pistols have hurt the sales of Beretta somewhat. I'm a Beretta fan but my next nine will be a CZ because they're just a better value.
I've owned both and the CZ is more accurate and $150-$200 bucks less. Mr. Fixed Income will go with the CZ.
I've owned both and the CZ is more accurate and $150-$200 bucks less. Mr. Fixed Income will go with the CZ.