G-town Hunter
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Does Bergara make barrels for any rifle?
Bergara barrels?
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Jim Watson
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Sorry, I don't care to read the catalog for you, but I did locate it:
http://www.bergarausa.com/index.php
http://www.bergarausa.com/index.php
Bergara barrels are made in Spain. They are button rifled, nothing unusual or spectacular, but a reasonable quality barrel. Just another example of our manufacturers offshoring American jobs. I saw some Bergara barrels for sale in Shotgun News last year, but I do not recall if these were threaded and chambered or just contoured blanks. On their website, they sell barrels, both pre-threaded and blanks.
Miss Stana
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ER Shaw, Lilja, Pacnor, McGowan all make fine barrels but I would shy away form Bergara. We buy many barrels every year and Lilja are over all the most consistent but the other's I recommended are fine choices.
Miss Stana
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Scorch, If Taylor Machine is your shop I just added it to my bookmarks.
G-town Hunter
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I want a Ruger M77 Hawkeye but I have heard the accuracy of their production barrels is kinda spotty. I don't know a whole lot about aftermarket barrels, do they even make that big if a difference... Or is it just hit or miss like everybody else?
I just got one off Ebay for $175 delivered
Here is how I would rate barrels:
A) lapped and stress relieved. Looks like a mirror inside, $300. Lilja, Krieger, Shilen select match, ect
B) Factory barrels on Rem 700, Sav 110, Win 70, ect
C) Cheap barrels like a Bergara, surplus military barrels.
D) rotting barrels with not much rifling left
F) So full of pits, you can't shoot it.
Here is how I would rate barrels:
A) lapped and stress relieved. Looks like a mirror inside, $300. Lilja, Krieger, Shilen select match, ect
B) Factory barrels on Rem 700, Sav 110, Win 70, ect
C) Cheap barrels like a Bergara, surplus military barrels.
D) rotting barrels with not much rifling left
F) So full of pits, you can't shoot it.
G-town
I do not have any feedback for you on Ruger bbls.The 77's I have dealt with were in the 1970's.The ones I shot,shot well.New ones? I don't know.
If you have your mind made up that is "The" rifle, you might buy it and shoot it before you worry about rebarreling it.
I also suggest a realistic assessment of what accuracy you expect/need.
For a production hunting rifle,I'd expect some to be about 2 MOA+or- at 100 yds,most around 1 1/2 to just over 1 MOA,and the more rare ones sneak under 1 MOA .
At the same time,subtle bedding tuning and tuning ammo can make an improvement.
Buying a $230 bbl,then paying significant $ to your gunsmith may or may not beat the Ruger bbl.Some blueprinting,like squaring the receiver face,may do more good than changing barrels without blueprinting.
The Lilja bbl recommended is a good one,there are others.I have used a few Douglas Premium barrels.They will do all I need in a hunting rifle.In my experience,they are a decent barrel.
I do my own work.If I were going to pay a smith to true my receiver,thread,chamber,and blue a barrel...would I quibble about a $350 bbl vs a $230 bbl??I'd want toup the odds that I would get the tack driver for the extra $120
But,unless I had some real good reason to do otherwise,I'd buy the rifle I had pretty good faith would give me the results I need.
I do not have any feedback for you on Ruger bbls.The 77's I have dealt with were in the 1970's.The ones I shot,shot well.New ones? I don't know.
If you have your mind made up that is "The" rifle, you might buy it and shoot it before you worry about rebarreling it.
I also suggest a realistic assessment of what accuracy you expect/need.
For a production hunting rifle,I'd expect some to be about 2 MOA+or- at 100 yds,most around 1 1/2 to just over 1 MOA,and the more rare ones sneak under 1 MOA .
At the same time,subtle bedding tuning and tuning ammo can make an improvement.
Buying a $230 bbl,then paying significant $ to your gunsmith may or may not beat the Ruger bbl.Some blueprinting,like squaring the receiver face,may do more good than changing barrels without blueprinting.
The Lilja bbl recommended is a good one,there are others.I have used a few Douglas Premium barrels.They will do all I need in a hunting rifle.In my experience,they are a decent barrel.
I do my own work.If I were going to pay a smith to true my receiver,thread,chamber,and blue a barrel...would I quibble about a $350 bbl vs a $230 bbl??I'd want toup the odds that I would get the tack driver for the extra $120
But,unless I had some real good reason to do otherwise,I'd buy the rifle I had pretty good faith would give me the results I need.
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I have a 6.5mm profiled blank thats .995od if anyone is looking to grab one of these. I bought off of eBay and its a very nice blank with beautiful bore and well finished profile. I bought it without noticing that the od was .995" so its now surplus to me.
Most modern blanks are of very good quality. Modern manufacturing and measuring is the same throughout all manufacturers. Major difference is cold hammer forging versus button rifling. The blank I have is button rifled and honed.
Most modern blanks are of very good quality. Modern manufacturing and measuring is the same throughout all manufacturers. Major difference is cold hammer forging versus button rifling. The blank I have is button rifled and honed.
Clark,
I don't know if someone boogered the job, but all the 6.5mm barrel blanks offered by bergarausa.com are cylinder taper, and out of stock. All pre-contoured barrels offered by bergarausa.com have a 1.20" listed shank area, although the muzzle of your barrel corresponds pretty close to a standard sporter #3 contour they offer although yours is undersized a bit. Could be yours was cut back from a 28" #1 contour.
It is also completely possible that you got an example straight from the factory that squeaked by QA/QC as part of a series of custom orders for a particular client. I honestly have no way of knowing, but I do know that the current catalogue does not offer the dimensions of the barrel you bought off of ebay.
Anyways I'm sorry you got a poor barrel off of ebay.
Jimro
I don't know if someone boogered the job, but all the 6.5mm barrel blanks offered by bergarausa.com are cylinder taper, and out of stock. All pre-contoured barrels offered by bergarausa.com have a 1.20" listed shank area, although the muzzle of your barrel corresponds pretty close to a standard sporter #3 contour they offer although yours is undersized a bit. Could be yours was cut back from a 28" #1 contour.
It is also completely possible that you got an example straight from the factory that squeaked by QA/QC as part of a series of custom orders for a particular client. I honestly have no way of knowing, but I do know that the current catalogue does not offer the dimensions of the barrel you bought off of ebay.
Anyways I'm sorry you got a poor barrel off of ebay.
Jimro
@Clark- The barrel looks as good or better than any others I have seen. Unfortunately I missed the dia in the description as .995. I have a 1916 mauser that I planned on using it on, but .995 doesnt give me a shoulder to but against without making up a lock nut or sleeving the barrel.
I would resell it to anyone that wants it for $165 shipping included as long as they are in the 48.
I would resell it to anyone that wants it for $165 shipping included as long as they are in the 48.
