petespoiled630
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looking to buy I new gun. narrowed it down to the beretta storm compact 9mm and the sig p250 compact 9mm. looking for opinions on these two. it will be a carry gun for me. thanks
beretta storm or sig p250
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Have you had a chance to shoot these?
I know nothing about the Storm, but I had a P250 just long enough to sell it off at the next gun show.
I didn't like the double action type trigger, the take down lever was near impossible to operate and it just had a cheap look and feel to it.
I know nothing about the Storm, but I had a P250 just long enough to sell it off at the next gun show.
I didn't like the double action type trigger, the take down lever was near impossible to operate and it just had a cheap look and feel to it.
Cyanide971
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Do you want a constant 6 1/2# DAO pull (Sig P250) or a 9-10# DA pull followed by a 4-5# SA pull for follow up shots, along with a decock lever (Beretta Storm)?
I've both, though my PX4 is a full size "D" model with a 9# DAO pull. They are both great handguns and when comparing the compact models, IIRC, the Beretta will be just a tad bit smaller by a few fractions of an inch. The Storm Compact also has a shorter 3.2" barrel vs the P250 Compact's 3.9" barrel, so you would have to be more selective in picking your defensive ammo, as a short barrel length like that can play havoc on HP rounds being able to properly expand (Federal HST, Speer Gold Dot Short Barrel/+P, CorBon DPX, and Hornady Critical Defense are consistent top performers from short barrels under 3.5").
They are both soft shooters, with the Beretta having possibly a slightly faster on target recovery time because of the rotating barrel design, which does seem to help absorb a little bit more recoil and keeping the barrel in a straight line. However, with that said, you need to make sure that if you get the Beretta you keep the locking lug channel and nub lubed/greased to ensure smooth rotation.
Concerning accessories, it's not a problem finding whatever taste of holster you desire for either online, though possibly a little easier as the P250 shares many of the same accessories as it's striker fired brother, the P320.
If possible, see if you can find a place to rent both of them to shoot and see which one fits you better. Good luck!
I've both, though my PX4 is a full size "D" model with a 9# DAO pull. They are both great handguns and when comparing the compact models, IIRC, the Beretta will be just a tad bit smaller by a few fractions of an inch. The Storm Compact also has a shorter 3.2" barrel vs the P250 Compact's 3.9" barrel, so you would have to be more selective in picking your defensive ammo, as a short barrel length like that can play havoc on HP rounds being able to properly expand (Federal HST, Speer Gold Dot Short Barrel/+P, CorBon DPX, and Hornady Critical Defense are consistent top performers from short barrels under 3.5").
They are both soft shooters, with the Beretta having possibly a slightly faster on target recovery time because of the rotating barrel design, which does seem to help absorb a little bit more recoil and keeping the barrel in a straight line. However, with that said, you need to make sure that if you get the Beretta you keep the locking lug channel and nub lubed/greased to ensure smooth rotation.
Concerning accessories, it's not a problem finding whatever taste of holster you desire for either online, though possibly a little easier as the P250 shares many of the same accessories as it's striker fired brother, the P320.
If possible, see if you can find a place to rent both of them to shoot and see which one fits you better. Good luck!
You really need to at least dry-fire the SIG P250 to see if you like or hate the trigger.
That seems to be the way it goes with the P250. People either love it or hate it, and there have probably been more of the latter. The P250 is a hammer-fired, double action only (DAO) pistol. Although many striker-action pistols call themselves DAO, they are nothing like a DAO hammer-fired pistol.
The P250 has a quite long trigger pull and a nearly equally long reset. The reset can be just slightly less than the initial pull because there is a bit of take up in the trigger. The trigger pull is fairly light for a hammer-fired DAO, and quite smooth, but you have to pull the trigger nearly back to the frame (or "grip module" per SIG) before the hammer breaks. Most people find it more difficult to maintain sight alignment during a long trigger pull than a shorter one.
The Beretta PX4 Storm is a traditional double action, hammer-fired pistol that shoots DA for the first round and SA for subsequent rounds. The slide-mounted lever can be either a dead trigger decocker (decocker/safety) in the F model, or a live trigger decocker (decocker only, no safety) in the G model. It is not hard to convert the F to the G. The initial double action trigger pull of the PX4 will be a little heavier and a little less smooth than that of the P250, but subsequent single action shots will be much lighter and shorter with a shorter reset. The full-size and compact Px4 pistols have the rotary barrel breech lockup. The subcompact PX4 does not.
IMO both the PX4 and the P250 are good pistols as long as you know what they are all about and what you want. I do own a SIG P250 subcompact. I do not own a PX4 but I have handled and dry-fired some. I own several other Berettas including 2 Beretta Cougars that have a rotary breech lockup basically the same as that used on the PX4. I agree the rotary breech does seem to reduce perceived recoil and muzzle flip some, and that it does like to be kept well-lubricated.
That seems to be the way it goes with the P250. People either love it or hate it, and there have probably been more of the latter. The P250 is a hammer-fired, double action only (DAO) pistol. Although many striker-action pistols call themselves DAO, they are nothing like a DAO hammer-fired pistol.
The P250 has a quite long trigger pull and a nearly equally long reset. The reset can be just slightly less than the initial pull because there is a bit of take up in the trigger. The trigger pull is fairly light for a hammer-fired DAO, and quite smooth, but you have to pull the trigger nearly back to the frame (or "grip module" per SIG) before the hammer breaks. Most people find it more difficult to maintain sight alignment during a long trigger pull than a shorter one.
The Beretta PX4 Storm is a traditional double action, hammer-fired pistol that shoots DA for the first round and SA for subsequent rounds. The slide-mounted lever can be either a dead trigger decocker (decocker/safety) in the F model, or a live trigger decocker (decocker only, no safety) in the G model. It is not hard to convert the F to the G. The initial double action trigger pull of the PX4 will be a little heavier and a little less smooth than that of the P250, but subsequent single action shots will be much lighter and shorter with a shorter reset. The full-size and compact Px4 pistols have the rotary barrel breech lockup. The subcompact PX4 does not.
IMO both the PX4 and the P250 are good pistols as long as you know what they are all about and what you want. I do own a SIG P250 subcompact. I do not own a PX4 but I have handled and dry-fired some. I own several other Berettas including 2 Beretta Cougars that have a rotary breech lockup basically the same as that used on the PX4. I agree the rotary breech does seem to reduce perceived recoil and muzzle flip some, and that it does like to be kept well-lubricated.
petespoiled630
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I haven't had a chance to shoot either of them. There is no place close it that rents guns to try. I live i a small town in West tn. I basically have to go by specs and opinions. I currently shoot a Taurus millinum g2. Just looking for something other then a glock
petespoiled630
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I have a price range $400- $600. I like those 2 options, i know they both have a Good history of performance
marine6680
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The trigger on the 250 puts some off.
Some don't like a DA/SA trigger like the Beretta. I have seen a video talking about the safety on the Beretta being sharp and hurting when carried, and even cutting their finger when operating the slide quickly. So it may be a good idea to swap it for a different style if you get the Beretta.
Are you open to other options if the are in your price range?
Some don't like a DA/SA trigger like the Beretta. I have seen a video talking about the safety on the Beretta being sharp and hurting when carried, and even cutting their finger when operating the slide quickly. So it may be a good idea to swap it for a different style if you get the Beretta.
Are you open to other options if the are in your price range?
petespoiled630
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I'm open to the options, not don't want a glock
Wethepeople01
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Great question! The PX4 Storm is the Glock 19 of the 'hammer fired' world..
Then you have a lot of options.
If you're not against polymer striker fired pistols in general, for a compact I like the M&P C and for subcompact I like the M&P Shield.
I have owned and carried both, along with the full sized version, and have settled on the Shield 9 as my favorite.
marine6680
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I too like the M&Pc, good shooting pistol, and a good size for carry.
If you want a hammer fired pistol, the CZ P07 is a "compact" size pistol similar to the G19... CZs are very nice pistols.
There are other options as well.
If you want a hammer fired pistol, the CZ P07 is a "compact" size pistol similar to the G19... CZs are very nice pistols.
There are other options as well.
I have the Px4 compact and a sub-compact P250. I think they are both solid guns for the money but as has been said they do have very different triggers - but both triggers are very good for what they are.
The P250 trigger is long but very smooth and it's the same everytime which has it's benefits for training. If I shoot only it I can quickly get used to the trigger and shoot it very well - if I shoot it after my Glock or XD9... yikes!!
The Px4 DA trigger is very nice (much better than my 92's) and then you have the SA trigger which makes second shots much easier than for the P250 - but you have to train for 2 different trigger pulls which has its drawbacks.
With cheap ammo, the Px4 may not cycle - it likes hotter loads (and also plenty of lube). My P250 went through that same cheap ammo that gave the Px4 fits with no problem. So based on that my very limited experience is that the P250 may be more reliable.
The take-down of the Sig for me is easier than the Px4 but not by much. Size-wise they are pretty much identical except the P250 compact is a shade thinner and lighter. They are both very accurate for me - the Sig maybe a little better once you get the trigger down. Basically it comes down to the P250 trigger which turns some people off - If you're used to a 1911 or a Glock for instance you won't like it. For a DA revolver guy it's great. For the money I think the P250 makes a solid CC gun - simple, reliable and inherently a little safer than a Glock-like pistol due to the longer trigger pull. I think I'd take it over the Px4 (which I do like) simply because I like having the one trigger pull even if the follow-up shots aren't as easy. They aren' tThat hard to manage. Also if it's your only gun it'll save you a few bucks.
I'll probably pick up a P250 compact in 45acp if I see one - for the price they seem a pretty nice non-1911 carry 45acp.
And for me - I carry a Glock 26 w/ a 15-round mag / get the same thing in a slightly smaller package for CC. And although the P250 trigger is good for what it is ...sorry, the Glock's is better.
The P250 trigger is long but very smooth and it's the same everytime which has it's benefits for training. If I shoot only it I can quickly get used to the trigger and shoot it very well - if I shoot it after my Glock or XD9... yikes!!
The Px4 DA trigger is very nice (much better than my 92's) and then you have the SA trigger which makes second shots much easier than for the P250 - but you have to train for 2 different trigger pulls which has its drawbacks.
With cheap ammo, the Px4 may not cycle - it likes hotter loads (and also plenty of lube). My P250 went through that same cheap ammo that gave the Px4 fits with no problem. So based on that my very limited experience is that the P250 may be more reliable.
The take-down of the Sig for me is easier than the Px4 but not by much. Size-wise they are pretty much identical except the P250 compact is a shade thinner and lighter. They are both very accurate for me - the Sig maybe a little better once you get the trigger down. Basically it comes down to the P250 trigger which turns some people off - If you're used to a 1911 or a Glock for instance you won't like it. For a DA revolver guy it's great. For the money I think the P250 makes a solid CC gun - simple, reliable and inherently a little safer than a Glock-like pistol due to the longer trigger pull. I think I'd take it over the Px4 (which I do like) simply because I like having the one trigger pull even if the follow-up shots aren't as easy. They aren' tThat hard to manage. Also if it's your only gun it'll save you a few bucks.
I'll probably pick up a P250 compact in 45acp if I see one - for the price they seem a pretty nice non-1911 carry 45acp.
And for me - I carry a Glock 26 w/ a 15-round mag / get the same thing in a slightly smaller package for CC. And although the P250 trigger is good for what it is ...sorry, the Glock's is better.
I have had both but ultimately decided to keep only the PX4 Compact. Around here, the P250 and SP2022 cost the same $400. I owned an SP2009 and it was 100% reliable – I only sold it because of the nonstandard rail. You might want to consider the 2022 since it has SIG's exposed hammer and decocker...
cc-hangfire
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I have the SIG P250, & love it. I have one "gun", the firing assembly, & three slide/grips: 9mm subcompact, 9mm compact, & .45acp full size.
I don't own the PX4, but go have its cheaper precursor, a Stoeger Cougar - compact 9mm w same rotating barrel design and DA/SA. I like that gun fine, too.
But, since it appears that you are just starting your collection, I'd recommend the Beretta. There is too high of the likelihood that you'll hate the P250 long DA trigger. The Beretta is undoubtably a fine handgun & you can practice DA or SA with it.
I don't own the PX4, but go have its cheaper precursor, a Stoeger Cougar - compact 9mm w same rotating barrel design and DA/SA. I like that gun fine, too.
But, since it appears that you are just starting your collection, I'd recommend the Beretta. There is too high of the likelihood that you'll hate the P250 long DA trigger. The Beretta is undoubtably a fine handgun & you can practice DA or SA with it.
petespoiled630
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I went with the beretta.. thanks everyone for the info. Was helpful in my choice
