Beretta & solid locked breech system

[Dead Logic]

Alright, I was doing more searching for Guns in concern for Self-Defense. I'm big on "No Recoil" in my opinion. In a conversation with a friend of mine, he went into detail of the Beretta selection- having used them mostly while he was in the Army.

Then I learned of the solid locked breech system, with a rotating barrel, takes advantage of the maximum energy received during firing to produce a very low recoil. I have -only- seen this option on the The semi automatic 8000 model, or "Cougar 8000."

The Cougar 8000 comes in 9x19, 40 S&w, and 45 Auto.

My friend however stated his dislike with 9mm, as I was looking toward the CZ 75 Compact for a defensive gun. It comes only in 9mm. He suggested a 45 using Hallow point, so it doesn't go through the target and hit anyone else. Plus it'll drop the target with one shot, as compaired to the 9mm. Which -might- require multiple shots. He also stated Beretta's have a huge load of safty options, which is also a plus.

http://www.beretta.com/from_usa_com.asp?section=ps&segment=difesa&Discipline=Medium size

Yet the Cougar is a medium size. I'd like a Compact or smaller. But I'll prolly be stuck with a Compact when I think about it, unless someone suggests a real potent and useful Sub-Compact.
Still thinking about the CZ 75 Compact, I took a gander at Beretta's selection for compact firearms in their Self-Defense section. Their 9000S Compact looked very interesting. It's quite small.

http://www.beretta.com/from_usa_com.asp?section=ps&segment=difesa&Discipline=Compact size



What's everyones opinion here with Beretta? Also, what's your opinion in concern with ammo for Self-Defense? If anyone has any other Defensive firearms in mind, please go ahead and state your mind.

 

[.357SIG]

My opinion of Beretta is very high. They have been in business for hundreds of years and you can't get that far making POS products. My 92FS and 96G are the best guns I have, IMO. They are top quality for sure. From all reports, the Cougars are just as good as the 92/96/98 series.

My friend however stated his dislike with 9mm, as I was looking toward the CZ 75 Compact for a defensive gun. It comes only in 9mm. He suggested a 45 using Hallow point, so it doesn't go through the target and hit anyone else. Plus it'll drop the target with one shot, as compaired to the 9mm. Which -might- require multiple shots. He also stated Beretta's have a huge load of safty options, which is also a plus.

Most folks are brainwashed into thinking .45 is the best of the best in defensive pistol rounds. The .45 will not drop someone any better than the 9mm with good defensive loads. Neither will reliably produce a one-shot-stop. I have many different pistols in many different calibers. The one I usually carry is a 9mm.

For defense, use a good quality hollow point round. I recommend the 124 gr. Speer Gold Dot for your future Beretta (if you buy it). As a matter of fact, the only defensive loads I use in any caliber are Gold Dots. They will expand with reliability and do not shed their copper jacket when expanded. I'm not a fan of anything that fragments on impact.

As far as other possible choices, anything from GLOCK, HK, SIG, Walther, Ruger, etc. will work as well. It's really a matter of personal choice; which one fits you best?

 

[Dead Logic]

Thank you for the reply. I did not know much about the total amount of damage the different ammo tended to do, so I had to use the information/opinions people gave me.

Just a question. How much kick-back does your Beretta get? And have you tried the Solid locked breech system that apparently lowers the amount of kick-back? If anyone have, I'd like to hear their opinion upon how much of a difference they felt.

 

[duckdawg]

kick back?

felt, or "perceived" recoil with the Beretta is a non-issue. You really feel very little, even with hot loads. I shot my 92 last sunday as well as a Glock, an FEG 9x18 and a USP .45. My Beretta had the least recoil, the USP not much more (very sweet shooter) followed by the Glock and the most (perceived) recoil with the FEG Makarov. Everybody else that shot my Beretta commented on how smooth it was to shoot.

I suppose a lot depends on how the gun fits you as well as your style of shooting (how you hold it), Weaver vs. Chapman vs JoeBob-Stance, I-b-c-this-on-gangsta-T.V.-stance, etc, etc.

Recoil is a non-issue unless you are shooting hundreds of rounds out of a gun you hate. Hundreds of rounds out of a gun you love is no burden whatsoever.