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Beretta Slide.
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weldonjr2001
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weldonjr2001
All the other semi-autos have some form of locking the slide to the barrel that use either the inside top of the slide (1911's, S&W's) or the front edge of the cutout in the slide (Sig, Glock, Kahr, etc.) The Beretta and Taurus 92 are the only ones I'm aware of that use a locking block attached to the barrel that engages the slide on the sides. No metal is need at the top. Beretta attains slide mass with metal on the sides, and it sure enough does give the extracted casing nothing to hang up on.
All the other semi-autos have some form of locking the slide to the barrel that use either the inside top of the slide (1911's, S&W's) or the front edge of the cutout in the slide (Sig, Glock, Kahr, etc.) The Beretta and Taurus 92 are the only ones I'm aware of that use a locking block attached to the barrel that engages the slide on the sides. No metal is need at the top. Beretta attains slide mass with metal on the sides, and it sure enough does give the extracted casing nothing to hang up on.
Oh, come now: Beretta has been making those "open top" guns since 1915. And the M-92 uses a locking block copied from the Walther P-38, which also has an open top, presumably to eliminate cases being trapped on ejection and tying up the gun.
Those wondering about the Beretta locking block should know that it was recontoured to ease some abrupt edges that took a lot of hammering during operation, and they now supposedly last longer. Nonetheless, many say they should be inspected every time the gun is field-stripped, and replaced about every 3,000 rounds or so.
And, P-38's in German service reportedly also cracked slides at fairly low round counts, these being postwar P-1's with alloy frames, actually.
Gemini
Those wondering about the Beretta locking block should know that it was recontoured to ease some abrupt edges that took a lot of hammering during operation, and they now supposedly last longer. Nonetheless, many say they should be inspected every time the gun is field-stripped, and replaced about every 3,000 rounds or so.
And, P-38's in German service reportedly also cracked slides at fairly low round counts, these being postwar P-1's with alloy frames, actually.
Gemini
The open barrel design is mainly to prevent jams, but has come to be the most recognizing feature of the Beretta 92 pistol. The combination of the open barrel, along with the in-line magazine feed, makes the 92 one of the most inherently reliable pistols in production. However, the achille's heel of the gun may be the supposed "weak" slides. I put 2500+ rounds through a 92 Compact with no problems, so I suspect the gun should go between 5-10,000 rounds.
12, 000 rounds and counting, same locking block.
Beretta 92 elite II.
There may have been an issue with the older blocks, but the new ones will go WAAAAAY beyond 3k rds.
I'd guess 50k would not be unrealistic.
On the other hand, the non-Beretta locking block that came with the federal arms ported barrel i got broke in half at under 3k.
Beretta 92 elite II.
There may have been an issue with the older blocks, but the new ones will go WAAAAAY beyond 3k rds.
I'd guess 50k would not be unrealistic.
On the other hand, the non-Beretta locking block that came with the federal arms ported barrel i got broke in half at under 3k.
My .02
Just another Beretta user that can debunk the 3000 round locking block problem. With the newer models I have never met anyone that's had the above stated problem. When I clean my 92fs and my 96 BM I inspect everything. Everything is still in working order after nearly 15000 rounds between the two.
Beretta locking block going after 2-3000 rounds, Glocks Kbing, all I've ever done is READ about these things happening, but have never SEEN them happen.
I'll let you know if it does. Don't count on a quick reply.
Just another Beretta user that can debunk the 3000 round locking block problem. With the newer models I have never met anyone that's had the above stated problem. When I clean my 92fs and my 96 BM I inspect everything. Everything is still in working order after nearly 15000 rounds between the two.
Beretta locking block going after 2-3000 rounds, Glocks Kbing, all I've ever done is READ about these things happening, but have never SEEN them happen.
I'll let you know if it does. Don't count on a quick reply.
9mmepiphany
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both the walther and beretta (and clones) share the open slide and the dropping locking block. both were known for their reliability in war time conditions (both egypt and isreal used the beretta during their conflicts)
the open slide also allows dirt to be "shaken out" of the action. the straight feed angle, light slide and non-dropping barrel add to it's reliability (it's one of the reasons you see alot of berettas, converted for blanks, in movies)
the open slide also allows dirt to be "shaken out" of the action. the straight feed angle, light slide and non-dropping barrel add to it's reliability (it's one of the reasons you see alot of berettas, converted for blanks, in movies)