Beretta Jetfire / Bobcat Owners.......

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Mr. Blonde

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I apologize for posting this thread but I didn't get a response for this under a different heading.

Who has experience with the Jetfire .25 and/or Bobcat .22/.32?

I am interested in a smaller bore CCW (smaller than my G-26) to carry on those days where I just don't want to carry a G-26.

I figure a .25 Jetfire/.32 Bobcat for Defense rather than a .22 Bobcat, but is there that much difference? It doesn't matter to me because they are all around the same size (somewhat).

Anyway, any positive/negative feedback???

Thanks guys....

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Mr. Blonde,

I have a Jetfire .25 ACP and love that little pistol. It's been 100% reliable & it doesn't weigh anything. I strongly recommend Hornady HP ammo for that little pistol as well. If you do a search for "Beretta Jetfire" or ".25 ACP ammo" on the search engine here, you'll find I have a lot of posts on this exact subject. A good practice load is the Fiocchi FMJ load. For me, it's the cheapest stuff available.

Understand it's a SA Only... you have to cock the hammer for the first shot and there are NO real safeties for the gun. The external safety just keeps the trigger from being pulled. There aren't anby internal saeties though... so don't carry it cocked over a live round. Either carry it empty cocked so it's easier to chamber a round, OR with the hammer DOWN on a live round. I keep the hammer down out of worry of wearing out the hmmer spring and collecting a bunch of lint and other crap between the hammer and firing pin.

it's a great back-up for a back-up ;)
take care,
Ben

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[This message has been edited by Ben (edited September 16, 2000).]
 
I just traded my M-21 Beretta Bobcat .22 for a Kel-tec P-11 9mm. The Bobcat tended to have a feed problem that never went away no matter what ammo I used :( ,not the thing I want in a carry gun. The Kel-Tec P-11 is a Double action full featured pistol in a small size with the 9mm punch very reliable no jams yet. I sent the Bobcat to Beretta and they "repaired" it,it failed to feed only once in 7 shots after the repair. :D
 
I have had the minx,the 21A and tomcat(32) and I was happy with all three.I have opted to replace with a M36 S&W but that was a calibur choice and had nothing to do with the quality of the small auto's.

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Mr. Blonde, I would buy a Kel-tec P32 and not look back. The small Berettas have a habit of biting the web of my hand. This doesn't happen with the P32 which has a slide that sits higher. My P32 had some teething problems, was returned to the factory, and is now completely reliable. Regards, Richard.
 
Ben,
I like my stainless Jetfire very much. Never a malfunctin. I carry it with a round in the chamber and the hammer at half cock.
I agree that this can let lint from my pocket get in the small gap between the hammer face and the firing pin. However, when I carried it with the hammer down on a live round I was concerned about droping the pistol just right right on the hammer spur and causing an AD. How do you reconcile the chance of this happening? Don't you think that the half cock postiton would be safer? Please post and give me your opinion.

Will
 
Have owned the model 950 in .25 and model 21 in .25 in the past.Both shot well without any jams and were very accurate.Small enough to carry in pocket for sure.
 
I have a 32 tomcat that is a blast to shoot and I carry it in the event that I cannot carry my Glock 22. I like that fact that it is double action so I carry it at half cock with a round in the chamber.
It has been totaly reliable. Only had one jam and that was with cheap ball ammo. It eats the silvertips like candy.

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I have a 950BS Jetfire that I carry quite a bit in the summer months. The only problem I ever had with it was a bad magazine. After fixing the problem it has been 100% reliable. It does require a careful grip when firing though, if grip is too high the slide drags across the web of my hand and slows the action enough to cause miss feeds. I can get one finger on the trigger and one on the grip, the rest have to be curled under the magazine floor plate. The little beast is surprizingly accurate when the light is good enough to use the sights.
Much better than having no gun but I'd prefer the .45 I carry in the cooler months.
Don Ohio
 
Great design. Easy to safely carry loaded. Tiny and ultra lightweight = a wonderful concealment piece. My Jetfire's always been reliable on the range, but once it jammed up in a way I still don't understand during (the amazingly simple) disassembly. I had to send it back to the factory. I got it back fixed, with no explanation. I used Magsafes in it, btw.

Nowadays, though, I just can't see using a .25 against human-sized targets. My father-in-law wanted to borrow a small-caliber pistol to use while camping - he doesn't want to kill anyone (I know, I know), just wound them. I figured the 950 BS fills the bill, so I loaned it to him.

I can't take a short-barrelled .32 a whole lot more seriously than a .25 for manstopping. There have been a few posts complaining about the reliability of the Beretta .32.
 
WLM,

After a lot of thought on the subject, I decided to carry the hammer resting on a live round for a couple of reasons:

1. With the hammer back fully OR even half-cocked, the hammer has stored potential energy. My theory is IF the blow to the hammer is strong enough to make the hammer fall, then the blow will certainly be strong enough to discharge the pistol. A blow to the hammer will only INCREASE the energy of the strike. So why help it out? I know, kinda confusing.

2. I seriously doubt that a strike to a resting hammer can be sharp enough to set off the pistol. The firing pin has a spring that keeps the pin inside the slide. I don't think we could set it off no matter what we did. The firing pin is already pressed into the frame with the hammer down. It can't go much further.

Ben

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[This message has been edited by Ben (edited September 18, 2000).]
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Coolray:
I just traded my M-21 Beretta Bobcat .22 for a Kel-tec P-11 9mm. [/quote]

Although I've not had any problems with my M-21 I've been giving serious thought to a Kel-Tec 32.



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Ben,
Thanks for getting back to me. Today I took a pain pill and drug my very bad back out to the garage and took my motorcycle out for a spin. I kept my Jetfire in a pocket holster with the hammer completely down. I just checked the primer for marks, and there were none. I seem to remember a post from somebody who said that when he carried his Jetfire this way he got very light indentations on the primer. Maybe he'll see this post and reply. I do like the little pistol. I think the Jetfire is a little smaller than the 21.

Will

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It's certainly smaller than the Bobcats.

I wouldn't worry about indentations. When the striker button is being pressed FLUSH against the rear of the slide by the resting hammer, the striker-pin does NOT protrude in ANY way into the chamber... It is designed so that the button can be pressed flush to the slide without the striker-pin ever sticking out. The only way to get the pin to show is to press the button well into the slide with a pencil, pen, etc. A reversed spring keeps it sucked into the slide even when the button is pushed in by the hammer when resting. Actually, just pop the barrel with the hammer down... you won't see the striker-pin.

Ben

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[This message has been edited by Ben (edited September 18, 2000).]
 
"Jetfire 950bs (.25acp)" == "outstanding" :D

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