Beretta 92FS vs. Browning Hi-Power

Ewok_Guy

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I'm thinking of trading in my Beretta 92FS in SS for a Browning Hi-Power Practical. Basically I'm just looking for a different, not necessarily better, 9mm pistol.
I've been quite happy with the Beretta, but I'm starting to get tired and bored with it. Want to try out something new. It's not my carry gun, its more of a range gun.
So tell me about the HPs.
Reliable? I'll be puttin many rounds through it. I need something thats real durable and can stand up to lots of intense rapid fire.
Accurate? Accurate pistols are more fun to shoot. Are they more accurate out of the box than the 92 in your experiences?
Overall, do you think this is a worthy replacement for the Beretta?
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Thanks in advance for your replies. :)
 
I have both pistols, and both are about equal in the accuracy department. Of the two pisols I find I like shooting the HP more so than the Beretta. The HP has a nicer feel (which is subjective).

As far as quality, I think they are both on the same level. I know you said it would be a range gun, but the HP is also more concealable.
 
I own a .40 Hi-Power and have shot my friends 92FS Compact. I personally find the Hi-Power more accurate, and easier to shoot, but I prefer the single action only trigger. I get a better sight picture on the Browning, as well. That said, I have a Beretta on order. ;)
 
I own both and like shooting both. If I had to get rid of one, it would be the Browning. Nothing wrong with it, I just prefer the Beretta. Purely subjective. It feels better in my hand and I shoot it better with less effort. It's just different flavors of ice cream.
 
Hello. I personally much prefer the Browning HP to the Beretta 92, but this is subjective. I like simple guns with few parts and in that regard, the HP soundly "beats" the Model 92. Having said that, the Berettas seem to work pretty darned good.

In fact, I prefer the BHP to any other semi, although the longslide Trojan by STI is a very, very close runner up!

"Better" and "best" will depend upon the person giving you their opinion so I'll just state what I've observed with HPs over the past 30 years in terms of what you asked.

Reliable: Very. Since the MkII, BHP reliability with JHPs went way up in most cases. Current guns feed about anything and do it slickly.

Accurate: If anything, the current MkIII guns have been consistent, i.e.: the best is not that much better than the worst, but all of them should group at least under 3" @ 25 yards. In my experience, you can find the loads a particular HP "likes" and get 2" groups at the same distance; I have to use a rest to do it.

Comfortable: Most folks remark that the HP's enduring strong point is its feeling right and its pointability. I know that's subjective, but it must be a general consensus as so many believe that; I do.

A negative is the great potential for hammer bite. For MOST, but not all, simply bobbing the hammer spur to the second lateral serration will solve this. So will adding a C&S Type I ring hammer.
A few require either the extended tang and/or the thinning of the hammer's shank as done by Novak's and Wickmann and perhaps others.

Sights: I find the fixed sights on the HP very usuable right out of the box. I do prefer the fixed sight picture provided by Beretta's 92, but do find the HP fixed sight very usuable. While on that topic, I have had some MkIII sights replaced with Novak's fixed sights and while they are "better," I note no increased ability in grouping, either at speed or in bullseye. They do add a certain panache, however, at least in my opinion.

Durability: Yes, they are, but with a caveat: They are NOT the vehicle in which to test loads beyond the 9mm envelope. In other words, with certain "protections," I find the current HPs most capable of handling +P loads on a regular basis, but this is not the pistol in which to try handloads beyond the manuals or SMG ammo. I forget the issue, but "American Rifleman" did a 5000 rnd test in a MkIII using 9mm 115 gr +P JHP and noted no problems.

I personally use 18.5lb Wolff conventional springs in my HPs as well as Buffer Technology's buff. Some discount the need for such, but I don't see how cushioning the smack between the slide and the frame can do anything but help and I've noted no functioning issues.

The trigger pulls on quite a few of the current HPs are not the best. However, I consider this just part of the deal on a HP, and good trigger jobs can be had from competent 'smiths. Expect a trigger pull that's clean and breaks at 4.5 to 5lbs.

Unlike the Beretta, the Hi Power comes with a magazine disconnect. Some can live with them; I do not and routinely remove them from any and all HPs I own. This is an individual choice.

I think you'll agree that there are more aftermarket parts and custom work offered for the BHP than the Beretta and you can spend just about as much as you want in making a fine gun "better" or at least more beautiful.

Here's a picture of a MkIII that has Novak sights installed as well as the Cylinder & Slide Type I ball hammer mentioned above. It has skateboard tape on the grip strap and Butler Creek authorized copies of the Spegel stocks. Right-side thumb lever on the thumb safety is removed.

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This MkIII has the factory sights and the bobbed hammer mentioned previously as well as Spegel black, checkered delrin stocks and no skateboard tape. The right-side ambi safety lever's been removed simply because I don't like 'em.

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So, that's my opinion only, and hope it's of use.

Best.
 
The BHP is definitely worthy. I don't have experience with the Beretta,so can't compare. But I can enjoy...

My BHP (clone) is my favorite pistol to shoot. Accurate, reliable, comfortable. Pointability is great. The sights seem to always be on the target.

Particularly, when the pistol comes out of recoil the sights seem to be right where I left 'em. So rapid follow-up shots are particularly easy. This should help in competition, if I ever compete. Probably related to the way the gun fits my hand, but my hand is pretty average. May fit you just as well.
 
I also own both. The HP design is probably a bit more accurate because it uses a tighter barrel lockup system than the 92FS. But, you are talking about a difference of about 1" group size at 25 yards from a ransom rest (going from a 2' group to a 3" group average).

Personally, I like the Beretta better because I have full sized hands and they fit a full size gun. The HP is closer to a compact in trigger reach and grip length. It is often used as a duty piece for women officers because it fits smaller hands better. I like the balance of the Beretta better because the HP feels light in the nose.

I also think the Beretta has a better trigger and is very easy to lighten (just install a "D" mainspring). I have personally had zero malfunctions with my Beretta 92 in about 6000 rounds fired. My HP has had numerous problems which is probably not typical for the gun. I would agree to not sell the Beretta.
 
The strictures of my religion also prohibit selling firearms that aren't a severe annoyance to me. ;)

I want a BHP, but don't plan on selling my 92FS to get one.
 
Bored w/ it? Is this bored from being so reliable, accurate or easy to shoot? Bored is a reason to get a new gun..sure...finding new reasons to buy the next gun is always a challenge :) but getting rid of a gun that hasn't been a problem to ya & you have enjoyed in the past is, IMHO the wrong reason to sell. Put the Beretta in semi-retirement, get the HP & shoot that for a while. ;)
 
I have both. The HiPower is probably as intrinsically accurate as the Beretta. The HiPower fits my hand better, and I fire it more accurately than the Beretta, even though my 92 is my first gun.
 
Good thread-

Depends on what action you prefer? Personally, I like a
first shot DA capeability; but that doesn't mean there is
anything wrong with the BHP. As a matter of fact, I shoot
the BHP better than a Beretta 92; but not better than a
Sig P226 or P228. Go figure-:D :cool: :)

Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member
 
I can also conceal the Browning, with a little effort. The only problem is the double stack grip. It is all but impossible for me with the Beretta 92.
 
I like the single action trigger on the BHP much better. If you remove the mag release you can get and excellent trigger pull. THe BHP fits my hand better and is more size efficient than the Beretta. Standard 13 round mags are easy to find and good KRD 17 round mags are available from CDNN for $20. THe Beretta is a fine gun, but the BHP is my favorite.
 
Ewok,
I went through the same thing you are going through. I carried a 92 Compact, and was totally satisfied with it. I had put around 3000 rounds through it, and never had any problems with it. However, I wanted a single-action 9mm and the Hi-Power was the logical choice. I've had my Practical for about three months now, and I am very happy with it. I'm not sure if it is any mor accurate than my 92, but it is a lot easier for me to shoot accurately. I really like the single action pull of my Hi-Power, especially since I removed the mag-disconnect safety. The only problem with the Hi-Power is the LONG reconnect of the trigger. This took a little getting used to, especially in rapid fire drills. You can't go wrong with either pistol!
 
I've got an older Beretta, Italian-made, straight 92, with the safety on the frame and mag release button in the lower left grip panel.

I've also got a High Power, which I recently picked up for a song.

Both are excellent pistols with lots to recommend them. Both are reliable, both are accurate.

Now that I have the High Power, though, I'm considering getting rid of the Beretta. It's just so honking big.
 
Keep the Beretta and Buy the Hi power. Why sell one of the best 9MM made guns to buy excellent made 9MM gun. Just think of it as your 9mm collection. That would consist of excellent quality 9MM pistols. JMHO

Tony
 
I recently picked up a Beretta 92F, first trip to the range, and the first target at 50', 10 shots, all of them inside of 2". It's a keeper! :) I have a FEG BHP clone that I also really like, and I'm keeping both of them, along with all my other guns! :D If I could change anything about the Beretta, it would be the slide mounted decocker, but it sure is a nice shooting gun.
 
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