Beretta 92FS update

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Hi everyone! I cannot express how happy I am to have decided to go with the Beretta. As I have posted before, I bought two at the same time... the only difference is one is marked M9. I couldn't resist shooting it, and Beretta told me it wasn't highly collectible, so I have put 300 bobble free rounds through the M9, and 500 through my 92FS. The only problem I encountered so far was shooting the 92 yesterday. I live in Las Vegas and it has been unusually cold here this week. My 92 wouldn't strip the first round out of the ten round magazine when pulling back the slide and releasing it. With the slide locked back, it would strip it, although sluggishly. I have never had this happen before, and am wondering if it is due to cold weather weakening the recoil spring, too much lube, or something else. Last time I shot the 92 was at a climate controlled indoor range, and had no problems with functioning. Other than that, they are plenty accurate enough in my hands, as I have no trouble keeping a beer can dancing in moderately quick fire at 15 yards. Any input on my only problem would be appreciated, though, and I'm not going to lube it as heavily as I have been!

Pat Brophy
 
Sounds like the slide dragging on the feed lips. Is it just with a particular mag? If yes, then it's prolly drag. If not, ???? possibly gunked-up oil in slide-to-frame contact surfaces (rails). I wanna get me a M92 someday, too.
 
I'm thinking that the slide pulled fully to the rear by hand should be slightly farther back than when the slide is held by the slide lock and thus should have more recoil spring oomph to strip and chamber the first round. Are you sure you released the slide cleanly and didn't follow it forward? I didn't catch your post so I'll ask if the pistols are new or used. If they're used I'd replace the recoil springs as soon as possible with the recommended strength. They're available at Wolffs or other sites. As far as lubing the slide rails, I use synthetic motor oil (15w50) on my Beretta. I don't exprience any real cold weather where I live but I'd think the multi-viscosity synthetic motor oil would hande cold weather just fine. Be sure and put a drop on each side of the locking block where it engages the slide after cleaning and lubing the pistol, then work the slide back and forth a few times. The Beretta 92FS is a fine, reliable pistol. The only problem I ever encountered with mine was after changing to +P ammo. I had put a stronger recoil spring in the gun and had a nose down feeding failure during the second magazine full. I finally figured out that the stronger recoil spring was closing the slide before the magazine spring could get the next round into proper feeding position. I ordered extra strength magazine springs from Woff and haven't had any problems since. I have utter confidence in my 92FS. While you're on Wolff's website (if you go there) check out the trigger return spring they offer. It sounds like a neat device. I ordered one and have it ready to install but I'm in no rush as the pistol is working fine.
 
Berettas are supposed to keep working fine even if badly gunked up (unless the US military trials were rigged, but that's for another post). I wonder if the 10 round magazine is an issue? To avoid any possibility that the mag could be topped off with an illegal 11th round, many post-ban magazines have no extra slack at the tenth round and are hard to load at full capacity. The extra friction might be the culprit in your case. Try the same scenario again, first with ten rounds in the mag then again with only nine. If it doesn't happen with nine then I'd say it's an issue with the post-ban mags. Time to go find yourself some pre-ban hi-caps!
 
I have a 92F Italian made and the only trouble I've had with it was the first time it was shot it wouldn't feed right because the slide was dry, my fault for not checking first. I also ordered some Hi cap mags from Cabela's, which were suppossed to work in the 92F they were not reliable so I purchased Berretta Hi cap mags, since then it has been very reliable.
 
Its not the weather

I put 300 rds through my new 92fs on Sunday with no malfunctions whatsoever. The temperature was about 40 degrees F. Factory post ban mags.
 
Thanks everyone for the replies! This was the first time it had happened, but you're right about the magazine spring having no slack when fully loaded. My M9, for which I have 2 15 rounders, are infinitely easier to load. I cleaned the gun when I got home, and repeated the excercise, pointing the gun in a safe direction, of course. I had no problems. However, it seems easier for the slide to strip one from the mag when it is loaded to 9 rounds. I guess Santa will have to bring me a couple of hi-caps for Christmas! Thanks again, everyone!

Pat Brophy
 
It may simply be, too, that now that you have a couple hundred rounds through the thing, the slide and frame have mated a little so the slide is a little slicker... ie. it's starting to break in.

I wouldn't completely give up on that mag just yet...

I've got ~2500 rounds through my Elite model w/ only one failure to feed. And I blame it on either a weak factory ammo load or weak mag springs in a used 15-rounder. I just got new mag springs for all my std-cap (15 rnd) mags in case.

Happy shooting.

rvb
 
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