Beretta 92A1 single action first shot

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I was at someone's house the other night, and the conversation of guns came up. The person mentioned having a Beretta 92, so I needed to check it out, of course. I am not a fan of the DA/SA guns, although I love everything else about these guns and have always longed for a SA version (excluding the $$$ Billenium). This is why I ultimately chose a CZ 85 over getting a 92. To clarify, I'm not a fan of DA-on-first-shot-only. I'm also not a fan of SAO on the first shot, but I'd accept it.

But, perhaps there was something I was misunderstanding. The gun at this person's house was a 92A1. Unless I'm losing my mind, I would say that the first shot would be single action. From my understanding of the operation, the "safety" switch seemed to simply disengage the trigger from doing anything. It didn't decock the hammer. So it seemed that this gun would be suitable for carrying with the hammer back with the safety on, and then one would simply draw, disengage safety, and have a first shot that is single action. Is there something I'm missing here? We were just standing around a kitchen, not at the range, so I didn't get to shoot it.

Thanks
 
To clarify, I'm not a fan of DA-on-first-shot-only. I'm also not a fan of SAO on the first shot, but I'd accept it.
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Umm, so what do you want your first trigger pull to be?

From my understanding of the operation, the "safety" switch seemed to simply disengage the trigger from doing anything. It didn't decock the hammer.
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That wouldn't be how a 92A1 works. To engage the safety you end up decocking the hammer automatically. Either it was a different gun or your memory is a bit off. No offense.
 
Might have been modified to be a cocked and locked version.

I believe this design/and or alteration was made for some Beretta 90s
to facilitate a quicker response in IDPA/IPSC.

Think of it as a "competition" version.
 
Umm, so what do you want your first trigger pull to be?
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I like the CZ, where the first shot is single action, but it doesn't have to be, if I choose to manually drop the hammer.

That wouldn't be how a 92A1 works. To engage the safety you end up decocking the hammer automatically. Either it was a different gun or your memory is a bit off. No offense.
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This then just furthers my confusion about this gun, because when I "decocked" it, I certainly expected the hammer to drop. But, it did NOT. Obviously I need to get this guy out so that I can shoot it. I entered his kitchen "knowing" that it was a decocker gun, which is why I came out so confused when it didn't decock, and dry fired it in single action after disengaging the alleged decocker.
 
Overscore,

To iterate, it's probably not a "decocker" gun but a cocked and locked one.

The Beretta 90s so set up are not rare but not common either.

If you wanted the hammer down, you'd do it manually just as a BHP or a CZ75
SA or, and God forbid the 1911 guys don't dump on me, the 1911.
 
To iterate, it's probably not a "decocker" gun but a cocked and locked one.
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I was under the impression that all 92s (minus the Billenium) were decocker guns, which is why I was scratching my head about this one. If this is not the case, I have some shopping to do. :D
 
Billenium
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I kid you not, the very first time I saw that label on a tag at the gunshop, I wondered why in heck they named a pistol after Bill Clinton.

Good thing I kept my mouth shut. Smart shop owners tend to keep the village idiot out of gunshops.

Bart Noir
 
I was under the impression that all 92s (minus the Billenium) were decocker guns, which is why I was scratching my head about this one.
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No the first 5000 or so had frame mounted safetys and the mag release down on the heal in the grip. Was it a frame mounted safety?
 
Sounds kind of hokey to me unless he got into it and took out the sear trip.
You need to get your bud and his gun to the range where you can mess with it safely and realistically.
 
THE ORIGINAL Beretta 92's were side safety ' cocked 'n' locked' just like a 1911. This is EXACTLY why I chose the Taurus PT 99 back in 1989. It has 9800+ rounds through it as we speak with nary a malf.
 
Could it have been a Taurus 92? PT 92AF? Is the safety is on the frame?
The Taurus can be cocked and locked.
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Hey, could be.
There was one here just the other day where a knowledgeable member was able to transliterate a strange description from what the OP HEARD to what his third party contact had actually SEEN and identify an unusual gun.

Looks like it is getting to be time to polish up the old crystal ball and massage the clairvoyance bump.
 
I agree with the comments about just needing to get the gun out to the range. First I need to convince this guy's wife to get an LTCF so that she can bring it to work without being felonious in PA.

Who knows, maybe it only decocks when there's a round in the chamber, but I'm grasping at straws to suggest that. It was definitely a 92A1. I think I might just buy it off them to be sure. :D
 
Can't roll cocked a and locked with these pistols. The DAO pull is actually really nice with the D hammer spring installed. I have no issue with DA to SA transitions. I think some people get caught up about it who aren't that familiar with the system. If that's what you use and train with its a great option, and offers many benefits IMO
 
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