I have hated double action pistols for several years now. My last was a SIG 239 which got traded for a Kimber. I simply do not care for two trigger pulls on a gun. However, my eye finds the Beretta 92 series to be very pleasing and I often gaze at them longingly in the display cases of the local shops. I have seen 92/96 DAOs carried by cops from time to time. Just wondering if they are offered to civilians and if anyone has positive or negative experience with them?
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Beretta 92
- Thread starter AndABeer
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I have a Beretta 92 FS. it is a very nice gun. Fits well in my hand and i shoot it fairly accurratly. My wife likes it the best of all our pistols.
Yes you can buy one. There is even a special one offered tht is the same of the US Military M9 that comes with a military holster and pistol belt.
Yes you can buy one. There is even a special one offered tht is the same of the US Military M9 that comes with a military holster and pistol belt.
Claemore70
Moderator
The new Berettas the Border Marshalls are extremely cool. I got a 96 Border Marshall, accurate, reliable, nice looking, and they come stock with night sights, and two sets of grips, rubber or plastic.
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the DAO berettas have the letter D after the number instead of an F or FS. the 92D is the DAO version of the 92FS. they are available to anyone and are around the same price as the 92FS. i don't see them in stores often but your dealer could get one for you.
i have never shot one since i don't really like DAO guns much but i do have a 92D hammerspring in my 92G Elite. the purpose of doing this is becaue the 92D has a lighter trigger pull than the 92FS (i think about 7-8 pounds) and its smoother than the standard 92FS's trigger. so now my 92G Elite has a similar DA pull to that of a 92D and its very smooth and pretty light. i like it a lot.
also all beretta are great guns and extreemly reliable. my 92FS hasn't jammed or malfunctioned in over 3500 rounds.
i have never shot one since i don't really like DAO guns much but i do have a 92D hammerspring in my 92G Elite. the purpose of doing this is becaue the 92D has a lighter trigger pull than the 92FS (i think about 7-8 pounds) and its smoother than the standard 92FS's trigger. so now my 92G Elite has a similar DA pull to that of a 92D and its very smooth and pretty light. i like it a lot.
also all beretta are great guns and extreemly reliable. my 92FS hasn't jammed or malfunctioned in over 3500 rounds.
Marko Kloos
Inactive
I have a 92FS, it's a tackdriver and utterly reliable. As far as traditional DA/SA pistols go, the 92 series is right up there with the best SIGs. If you like DA/SA and external safety/decocker, the 92/96 series are just about the best out there. The only beef I have with them after switching to Glock for CCW is that they are fairly big and heavy for concealed carry. They are holster guns for police and military, but they can be concealed reasonably well with good leather.
Also, the Beretta 92 is easy on the eyes, a very elegant design, and the DA trigger pull is very smooth and crisp.
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Also, the Beretta 92 is easy on the eyes, a very elegant design, and the DA trigger pull is very smooth and crisp.
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BrokenArrow
New member
Excellent pistols. I've had several including a 92 and 96 w over 20K rounds through each.
The Beretta and Taurus share a common lineage (the Tauri are made on licensed Beretta machines the Brazillian govt sold to Taurus when the military contract expired). Subtle differences make the Beretta worth the extra money (and a tad more reliable/durable) IMO, both are excellent.
Extractors, locking blocks, frames, barrels, etc are not exactly the same, it adds up. The stainless models of each are the closest, and I would still give an edge to B over T (I have had both BTW). I would take the PT101 40 over the 96, but not over the Brigadier 40.
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The Beretta and Taurus share a common lineage (the Tauri are made on licensed Beretta machines the Brazillian govt sold to Taurus when the military contract expired). Subtle differences make the Beretta worth the extra money (and a tad more reliable/durable) IMO, both are excellent.
Extractors, locking blocks, frames, barrels, etc are not exactly the same, it adds up. The stainless models of each are the closest, and I would still give an edge to B over T (I have had both BTW). I would take the PT101 40 over the 96, but not over the Brigadier 40.
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OK then, Mr. Arrow ;-) , whydja dump 'em? What's not to like, other than the fact that most of them ought to come with a wheels kit (really - <g> )?
I have been lusting in my heart for a 96 (.40) Border Marshall that a dealer here's got for sale. Haven't quite got there yet, though...
I have been lusting in my heart for a 96 (.40) Border Marshall that a dealer here's got for sale. Haven't quite got there yet, though...
I nearly bought a DAO type 92. The trigger was very very nice. I did have a 92F but sold it to a cop. I researched the slide breakage problems and decided I didn't want the open slide. Since then I have come to believe the 92 also has a locking lug problem. I don't know if I am right or wrong (for sure), but I no longer own a Beretta. There are many other designs which I believe are better, so I have never looked back.
BrokenArrow,
I fully agree with you. I for one don't like Taurus' triple safety-decock, cocked and locked and hammer down. I really liked the safety of the first generation PT92s. In my experience Beretta makes a better pistol. Your mileage will vary.
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So many pistols, so little money.
I fully agree with you. I for one don't like Taurus' triple safety-decock, cocked and locked and hammer down. I really liked the safety of the first generation PT92s. In my experience Beretta makes a better pistol. Your mileage will vary.
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So many pistols, so little money.
I have a 92FS and it is accurate enough, fairly simple to maintain and has very slight felt recoil. It is also large, has a thick grip and I would have preferred a Ruger-style decocker only. The difference between DA and SA trigger pulls is so extreme that I have fired shot #2 accidentally a few times while learning it.
Will Beararms
New member
The 92FS is an excellent pistol in many respects. They will digest any round you put in them. They are attractive and easy to operate. They are usually very accurate with almost no recoil. There are no stamped or cast parts on the 92FS. The tolerances are within the width of a human hair and the weapon is essentially made using microscopes.
The primary limitation is the inability to shoot +P or +P+ ammo in high quantities. I enjoyed mine and did not worry about the locking block failures one bit. I did however, grow to hate the locking block itself due to the fact that it is cumbersome during re-assembly.
They are a highly refined handgun however the Beretta demands frequent applicaions of lubrication to guarantee reliability.
For the record, I tend to buy two Rugers at a time where I used to buy one Glock, Beretta or Sig. They are built to shoot any factory-loaded round per the instruction booklet and they will function in any scenario or environment. The refinements may not be there but the reliability is. In short, they don't have to be "babied". The accuracy of the new P95 and P97 polymer framed guns is on par with any make out there due to a new lock-up and increased slide to frame contact.
I am getting to the point where I would rather reserve the high dollar purchases for a shotgun or rifle since some of the most expensive handguns I have ever owned have failed while the low-dollar Ruger P series never bobble.
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The primary limitation is the inability to shoot +P or +P+ ammo in high quantities. I enjoyed mine and did not worry about the locking block failures one bit. I did however, grow to hate the locking block itself due to the fact that it is cumbersome during re-assembly.
They are a highly refined handgun however the Beretta demands frequent applicaions of lubrication to guarantee reliability.
For the record, I tend to buy two Rugers at a time where I used to buy one Glock, Beretta or Sig. They are built to shoot any factory-loaded round per the instruction booklet and they will function in any scenario or environment. The refinements may not be there but the reliability is. In short, they don't have to be "babied". The accuracy of the new P95 and P97 polymer framed guns is on par with any make out there due to a new lock-up and increased slide to frame contact.
I am getting to the point where I would rather reserve the high dollar purchases for a shotgun or rifle since some of the most expensive handguns I have ever owned have failed while the low-dollar Ruger P series never bobble.
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"When guns are outlawed;I will be an outlaw."
[This message has been edited by Will Beararms (edited June 02, 2000).]
I appreciate all the responses, but I was specifically looking for first hand experiences with the DAO (Double Action Only) model. I believe a previous poster ID'ed it as the 92D. Does it require the slide to cycle for a trigger reset? Is it available with night sights?
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[This message has been edited by AndABeer (edited June 02, 2000).]