I am looking for a versatile SA for both target practice and concealed carry. The Beretta 8040, SigP229 and Glock 22 (and 8000/226/17 in 9mm)all feel ergonomic in my large hands. I would like a pistol with minimal recoil, ease of use, but wonder about pros/cons of external safety, decock lever, etc.
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Beretta 8040, SigP229, or Glock 22?
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I have an 8040 Mini Cougar and it works every time, is accurate enough for CQB and it has a safety/de-cocker. I like the looks and feel of a 229 and they have a de-cocker but no safety. I like the idea of having a de-cocker for carry but that's just me and I don't carry so the point is moot for me.
If I were to carry, then I'd go with the 8040 or the 229. The 229 is more accurate and has a better trigger. Therefore, my choice for target practice and carrying would be a 229.
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Rich
If I were to carry, then I'd go with the 8040 or the 229. The 229 is more accurate and has a better trigger. Therefore, my choice for target practice and carrying would be a 229.
Later,
Rich
I went to a larg gun shop once. I asked to hold a Glock that the owner had for sale. I really liked it. I told the owner that it might be time to trade in my Sig and buy his Glock. He asked me, "Why in the world would you want to do THAT! Your Sig is a far superior pistol!" I admire his honesty. He had a sale to lose at the expense of keeping me with something he thought was best. After some more experience I have to agree. I'm not knocking the Glocks. I think they have superior design features in some respects. All that you listed are some of the best available. Sigs though are known for consistant target grade accuracy, reliability, and ease of use. If you will practice lots of dry fire, as you should, both Sig and Berretta are easier to manipulate. Glocks are also easy to manipulate in LIVE fire. You don't have to draw the slide back as you do in dry fire w/each shot. They are all great choices. In my experience, the 229 has the edge in the areas that you are asking. The 229 chambered for 9mm or 357 Sig is more accurate than the 40 S&W on average. I know of someone who is a Sig specialist who can make a great Sig trigger into an awesome trigger pull, if target shooting and getting the most accuracy out of it is a desire.
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Robert
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We have been looking for quite some time for a pistol to replace the wifes Beretta 92FS as her carry pistol. Of everything she played with her two choices wer the 229 and 8040. She decieded on the 8040 but now that you can get a 8045 we are wating to find one of these as I'm a 45 nut through and through. Hopefully she will like the 8045 so we can get her one for Christmas, otherwise it's a 8040.
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The SIG P229 is the best handgun of it's type and fits the criteria you are looking for...
Why spend your $$$ on a GLOCK or BERETTA??? Use that $$$ towards a SIG!!!
I have used them all...
And the SIG is head and shoulders above the others, I would have to agree with the respondent who go better accuracy out of the .357SIG and 9MM variations. I too was getting noticably tighter groupings with these cartridges as oppossed to the .40S&W...
However, I leave nothing to chance and use the most proven .45auto cartridge, the cartridge that has been a proven man stopper for almost 100 years!!!
NUFF SAID.
Why spend your $$$ on a GLOCK or BERETTA??? Use that $$$ towards a SIG!!!
I have used them all...
And the SIG is head and shoulders above the others, I would have to agree with the respondent who go better accuracy out of the .357SIG and 9MM variations. I too was getting noticably tighter groupings with these cartridges as oppossed to the .40S&W...
However, I leave nothing to chance and use the most proven .45auto cartridge, the cartridge that has been a proven man stopper for almost 100 years!!!
NUFF SAID.
Thanks for all the great info. I talked to a LEO last night who carries a SIG 229 and loves it. The only thing I find troubling about the Beretta is that the safety/decocking lever must be pushed up (a fairly unnatural maneuver for the thumb)in order to take the safety off. Therefore, when carrying concealed, one would be tempted to keep the safety off. If this is the case, the Glock then becomes the safer gun with its trigger-pull safety. What is the advantage of having a decocker on the SIG with DA/SA vs the DAS of the Glock?
The advantage is light, crisp trigger pull on subsequent shots. Also, the Beretta does not have to be carried with the safety on. With the safety off, it's a traditional double action. The first shot will be DA and just as safe as the Sig (assuming you realize the obvious condition that the hammer must be down [decocked]). Sounds to me that the perfect candidate would be a Sig 228. Same frame, narrower slide, and 9mm. Light recoil, ultra accurate and extremely reliable. You can also get the 229 in 9mm, but the trade off is the heavier and wider slide.
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