Beretta 21 22lr or Ruger LCR 22????

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What is the better deal?

The Beretta runs about $249.99 7 shot + 1
How long is the life span on one? like round count, shoot 5,000+++?


The Ruger LCR 22lr is about $429.99 and is like a tank, can take 1,000's of rounds from what I hear.

I am fond of revolvers in 22lr but do not want to discont the Beretta.
 
I have both and I consider both to be built like a tank. I imagine both will be handed down to my children. I got the stainless beretta new for $330 (your price of $249 seems like a really good deeal in my neck of the woods even for blued) otd and the Lcr for $459 otd. Not sure which one I would say is a better deal. Both have been flawless. I can shoot the Lcd a little more accurately, but imagine size has a lot to do with that. The bobcat is tiny.

If I was only going to have one it would be the Lcr. While my bobcat has not jammed all little auto 22 have a reputation of being ammo picky. The other reason I would go with the Ruger is customer service. Ruger has maybe the best in the biz.

You cannot go wrong with either though. Or do what I did and get both
 
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I have the Beretta. It will have the occasional failure to eject (1 out of 50+ even with the CCI's) but I haven't decided if it was the gun or the ammo. The casings on some 22's seem to stick in the barrel even when clean - just aren't all made right, I guess. Clearing a failure is not as easy as most semis. The last time I went I tried each round to make sure it slid in and out of the barrel first before I went to the range (easy to do with the tip-up barrel) - not one failure in 100 rounds. It's very easy to pocket carry (I really do forget I have it), accurate, easy to shoot and built very solid. I would expect it to last for quite a while with proper care. They seem to for others. And they don't break the bank.

I'd like to get a LCR-22, too. As a revolver it's probably a little more reliable. it's pretty much the same size as my 642 which is also very easy to carry. But don't expect to do quick reloads on an 8-shot 22. The Beretta's better there with an extra mag or 2 or 3 (very small so you could easily carry an extra 14 or 21 rounds if you wanted to).

If you aren't worried about carrying a 22, they seem like two of the better carry choices out there.
 
The semis are very unreliable with snake shot - go with the LCR. Also, a BUG has to work because you are using it because things are going badly. Thus, the semis being pretty unreliable in some cases is a strike against them.
 
I have 2 of the Beretta's 21's Bought them for my girls to shoot They like them and I have found them to very relieable Same as my 2 beretta 950BS and the model 20 These of course in 25 auto.
 
I would get the Ruger LCR-22 first and as your budget permits, pickup a Beretta down the road. The Beretta would certainly carry easier in your pocket, but the Ruger is a more reliable gun once you shoot it enough to develop some confidence with it. It is an easy gun to shoot. I have quite a few 22 handguns and still have not purchased one of the tip up one of barreled semi-autos.
 
Neither of these are range guns IMO so I wouldn't buy either with that in mind. They are either 1) BUG's or 2) 'fun' plinker type guns. That being said, I have a 21A I love but would really like to get an LCR.

By the way, pertaining to small mouse .22lr semis, don't discount the Phoenix HP 22 which can be had new for $140 (and yes, don't laugh as it rocks:)).

-Cheers
 
The Beretta and Tauri tip up barreled pistols both have a major flaw that would prevent me from carrying one.

Because of the tip up barrels neither brand has an extractor. They rely completely on chamber pressure to extract the empty.

If the chamber gets all gritty from carry malfunctions become a possibility.

Unacceptable design for a defensive pistol.
 
Micro,

I have a 21A, PT22 and now a Phoenix HP 22 (I'm one of those crazy mouse-gun aficionados) and with HV ammo they are very reliable like 90%+ (try one and you will see if you haven't already--but the ammo is the KEY variable). Your point is well-taken, however, and it's why I stated that I will only either plink with them or use them as a BUG (however there are those times in the Summer when I forget to take out the trash and have just a pair of shorts on and will throw one in my front pocket absent any worries--call me crazy:eek:).

Now if ammo costs is not an issue, I say get same model in .25 ACP.

-Cheers
 
Ruger LCR 22: Easy Trigger Pull...?

My wife is tip-toeing into the shooting thing...she's actually never shot before, but is about to get her CCW permit. I had thought she would shoot and occasionally carry my S&W 351c 22mag revolver, but having arthritis, she can't pull the trigger with one hand. She also isn't interested in anything with recoil.

So, my question is, does the Ruger LCR 22 have a reasonably light trigger pull, and will it likely be easier than the S&W 22mag?

And, does anybody know whether the S&W 43c (like the 351c, except in 22 LR) has the same long trigger pull as the the 351c, or is it easier because it's 22 LR?
 
They didn't have the Internet 50 years ago. We had to wait till Gore invented it and Bush surfed the Internets with the Google. :D

Haven't shot an LCR-22 but I know from experience the the modern Smith 22 revolvers have annoying heavy and supposedly necessary DA pulls.
 
I've had two LCRs. Great guns. The trigger on the LCR is MUCH lighter than any other revolver I've shot. I'd love to have one.
 
Ruger LCR 22. LCR's have a lighter (but different - shorter, shorter reset, 'spongier') trigger pull than the Smith airlite equivalent - 317 (or Smith j-frames, generally), and $100-200 less. I think the premium for the Smiths is because of brand, and carry weight. Super light at 10 oz.

Ruger produced the 'trainer'-equivalent (LCR 22 and LCR .38/.357) to the Smith and Wesson pairings (airlite models 317 and 360 or 340/342 centennials, and airweight model 43c and 442/642 centennials), and did so at a significant discount. Get the LCR 22, and a couple bulk packs, and move up to the LCR .38/.357 when you're comfortable. The reason for the .22 revolver as a beginning training (and skills maintenance) cc-firearm is handling familiarity and trigger time, not to mention building strength in the hands, and getting acclimated to the specific timing of the trigger, all without the distraction of felt recoil. And, 8 rounds may yet be enough, in a pinch, for one who's put enough rounds downrange to learn the gun (i.e., its abilities, and its limits).

If you could only afford one gun, needed an EDC immediately, and resolved to go with a revolver, I'd go with the LCR .38/.357 (skip the .22 trainer) and a set of A-zoom snap caps, a speed-loader/strip, and a commitment to 'dry-fire' as a major component of training/skills-retention.

I do like the Beretta 21A (as well as the 84's, and the 950): It's a good-looking gun, plenty fun to shoot, and has attractive appeal for new shooters, e.g., taking new shooters to the range (whether or not a new shooter could use it effectively, first time out, is another story). It's just not a priority for EDC/BUG. Sharper edges, fat in the palm (equals more width to contend with in attempts to conceal), requires premium ammo (IME, high-velocity CCI, still 1 or 2 FTE's/100, clearing a .22 lr case that hangs up the gun is more problematic), just a little more complicated than a BUG should be.

And unfortunately, today, the inexpensive polymer micros in .32 ACP and .380 ACP, especially reliable DAOs, are making it a tougher sell.
 
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