Beretta 1935 (gun of the day)

johnwill

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Here is my engraved Beretta 1935. I've always been curious as to the origin of the engraving, since it doesn't match any description of the factory engraving option. I suspect this was done as a custom job, but always looking for information. Anyone got any ideas as to the origin?

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John,

What's the difference between a 1934 and a 1935 Beretta? What caliber is your gun in? (Nice looking piece, by the way.)

Clemson
 
Clemson, the Beretta Model 1934 was chambered in .380 ACP with a 3.38" barrel and the Beretta Model 1935 was chambered in .32 ACP with a 3.5" barrel. Hope this helps!

Steve Mace
 
Thanks, Steven. My dad brought back a 1934 from Italy. It was given to him by the Italian partisans during the war. It had the military holster with magazine pocket, but the gun had a relatively high-polish blue. It was a .380. He unaccountably decided that he no longer "needed" his war trophy and sold it to a gun dealer for $150 one day about 10 years ago! Sigh...........
 
Clemson, the Beretta Model 1934 was chambered in .380 ACP with a 3.38" barre and was used by the Army.The Beretta Model 1935 was chambered in .32 ACP with a 3.5" barrel and used bt the Italian Navy.

:cool:
 
Johnwill--Nice pistol.

I believe yours is facory engraved. I had a model 418, .25 ACP, for many years, and it had engraving identical to yours. Very small, shallow scroll and a good, even plating.

Best,
Johnny
 
Johnny,

That's pretty cool if it's factory engraving, the gold plated one is listed at tons more than I have in this gun! I have less than $300 in the gun, and it's in great shape. I couldn't find any reference to engraved nickel Model 1935's, so I thought it might be an "after the fact" job. I've never seen the factory model, so I have no basis to compare. The nickel is nicely done, and almost 100%. In any case, it's a neat little gun...
 
More on the model nine-thirty-five. (Not 1935.)

Johnwill--

Easter break, 1964--Helped my girlfriend's mom choose a home defense gun at a pawn shop in New Mexico. She rejected several more suitable handguns and chose the engraved .25 Beretta, because it was so "cute." She fired two magazines in practice and later killed a small rattlesnake on the patio with the little gun. I married girl friend. When mom moved to Dallas and went into assisted living, wife and I shared custody of the Beretta. She kept it, of course, when we parted ways, after 16 years.

I've probably owned four other examples of this type pistol over the years, both in steel and alloy frame versions. It was the original James Bond sidearm from the Ian Fleming book, Casino Royale-- The eight-shot model with grip safety. Fairly large for a .25 but very flat and all of mine were quite accurate.

The Beretta was marked "1954" on left rear of frame, in the area covered by the stock of your 1935. This was definitely a factory job. It appeared to have been done with some sort of pantograph engraving instrument. I'll bet your pistol is of the same general era. I trust you've had the stocks off.

All of which is to validate my claim to at least limited standing to assess your pistol as a factory item.

W. H. B. Smith's Book of Pistols and Revolvers, 7th edition, 1968, illustrates your pistol on p. 663, as the model 935. They called the commercial version of the 1934, the model 934 Cougar. BTW, same book shows that engraved 418 was called model 420. Dunno if they called the engraved 935 by a different model number. I really don't know much of the history of Beretta. There is at least one good book out on the subject, but I haven't read it. Apparently the commercial examples of the Italian service pistols, models 1934 and 1935, were identified by model numbers which dropped the numeral "1" from the year of inception.

The Smith book is certainly worth having, especially with your liking for vintage auto pistols.

Best regards,
Johnny
 
Nothing under the stocks, however there is a small round stamp with a little crest, the initials PSF, and 1953 within the circle. There are also a couple of small 5 pointed star stamps in the circle. The slide has P. BERETTA-CAL. 7.65 BREV-GARDONEVT on one side and MADE IN ITALY on the other side. The serial number series is 822xxx.

I'll have to look for the "Book of Pistols and Revolvers", might indeed be a handy reference to have around. Any chance of scanning that page and emailing it to me?
 
Scanning---

I'll put the book in my car and try to get over to Elder Son's place. I don't have scanning facilities, but he does.

That sure is una pistola bonita.

Best,
Johnny
 
Johnny,

Please, don't make a special trip, the next time you get a chance will be fine.

It is a fine looking specimen, isn't it. :)
 
My records indicate the the 1935 was actually a 1934 model chambered for 7.65mm Auto (.32ACP) as previously stated and was principally issued to the Air Force and Navy, and consequently, usually bears 'RA' or 'RM' on the frame. Those sold after 1945 were know as Model 935

HJN
 
I listed all the stuff I found on the frame and under the grips, but I don't see either of these two stamps. I'd like to know how this gun got engraved...
 
. . .How it got engraved . .

I done tole you: At the factory, in Gardone, Italia. ;)


That's a pretty valuable little piece, Johnwill. You don't happen to have the box and instructions, do you?

Best,
Johnny
 
No box or instructions, I bought the gun on Auction Arms for something around $300, can't find the paperwork right now. I just thought it was neat that it was engraved, I really didn't think the owner would not know it's value. I was surprised that a gun in that good condition that was engraved was that cheap, that's why I went for it. BTW, I ordered the book "Book of Pistols and Revolvers" from a place on the web, so I'll have my own reference in a week or so. :)
 
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