Bedside Gun
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My choice is a standard E2 configured AR, . . . 30 rd mag, . . .
Reason: my .223's go out 1 at a time, . . . whereas your 00 buck goes out in clusters. I can slightly move the impact zone for my .223, . . . where ever you pulled the trigger on the load, . . . that is where they land.
Inside a house, . . . you will not get effective 12 gauge expansion of the load until you get down to a 10 or 12 inch barrel (very much illegal by the way) but the AR gives you the ability to "spread the wealth" so to speak.
There will always be the "knockdown power" argument to counter my reasoning, but if you don't hit em, . . . knockdown power is a moot commodity. Additionally, . . . reloading a shotgun is a time consuming, action rich adventure in a high adrenaline event, . . . reloading an AR is a piece of cake, . . . push the button, . . . I've got 30 more.
AND, . . . if I really wanted to go "HI TECH", . . . I saw I believe 60 round mags that are almost the same size as 30's, just fatter in the bottom, . . . if you cannot stop a BG with 30 or 60 rds of .223, . . . a 12 gauge certainly will not be any better.
Just old codger thoughts, . . . mostly influenced by the dead bodies of our MP's on the streets of Saigon, Hue, and other places, . . . when the powers that were then forced them to use shotguns instead of rifles. It took a number of bodies, . . . but they finally listened, . . . gave the shotguns to the infantry who could use em.
May God bless,
Dwight
Reason: my .223's go out 1 at a time, . . . whereas your 00 buck goes out in clusters. I can slightly move the impact zone for my .223, . . . where ever you pulled the trigger on the load, . . . that is where they land.
Inside a house, . . . you will not get effective 12 gauge expansion of the load until you get down to a 10 or 12 inch barrel (very much illegal by the way) but the AR gives you the ability to "spread the wealth" so to speak.
There will always be the "knockdown power" argument to counter my reasoning, but if you don't hit em, . . . knockdown power is a moot commodity. Additionally, . . . reloading a shotgun is a time consuming, action rich adventure in a high adrenaline event, . . . reloading an AR is a piece of cake, . . . push the button, . . . I've got 30 more.
AND, . . . if I really wanted to go "HI TECH", . . . I saw I believe 60 round mags that are almost the same size as 30's, just fatter in the bottom, . . . if you cannot stop a BG with 30 or 60 rds of .223, . . . a 12 gauge certainly will not be any better.
Just old codger thoughts, . . . mostly influenced by the dead bodies of our MP's on the streets of Saigon, Hue, and other places, . . . when the powers that were then forced them to use shotguns instead of rifles. It took a number of bodies, . . . but they finally listened, . . . gave the shotguns to the infantry who could use em.
May God bless,
Dwight
scottycoyote
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i got both in my bedroom but im reaching for the 12g.
Fireman179
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Defiantly the shotgun, keep mine loaded with buck shot
Edward429451
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Defiantly? As in contumacious? 
Anyhoo, for me definitely the AR. For all the reasons already stated. ...spread the wealth, LOL!
I do have a shotgun but have reasoned the AR to be better to fill that niche.
Anyhoo, for me definitely the AR. For all the reasons already stated. ...spread the wealth, LOL!
I do have a shotgun but have reasoned the AR to be better to fill that niche.
Ridge_Runner_5
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Short barreled AR
L_Killkenny
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None of the above. Why the heck all the concern over a second HD gun. Learn to use your primary and dance with who brung ya. Joe Q home owner, "Please Mr. bad guy, can you hold on a second while I figure out what to shoot ya with? Please?"
Sure it's nice to think you can fight your way to a real gun but in reality by the time you do that the fight is over, win or lose. You ain't in 1870 fighting Apaches.
LK
Sure it's nice to think you can fight your way to a real gun but in reality by the time you do that the fight is over, win or lose. You ain't in 1870 fighting Apaches.
LK
Rampant_Colt
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I would NOT want to shoot an AR-15, especially one with a short barrel and compensator indoors. Kiss your hearing good-bye..
Besides a shotgun loaded with reduced recoil buckshot, a .45 ACP loaded with 230gr JHP is my next choice. It's subsonic, not burning a lot of powder (more powder, more boom), and offers good protection for most things that go bump at 3AM.
Besides a shotgun loaded with reduced recoil buckshot, a .45 ACP loaded with 230gr JHP is my next choice. It's subsonic, not burning a lot of powder (more powder, more boom), and offers good protection for most things that go bump at 3AM.
Depends on where you live and a lot of other things. Unless you have a lot of land where you need to shoot at someone who is some distance away, I would say shotgun.
On the flip side if you live some place with say bear, where a bear could break into your house I would say get an AR and keep one of those .50 Beowulf uppers handy.
PS: better have some hearing protection hanging up if you go the AR-Route unless you like hearing loss.
I live in a condo so my bedside gun rotates between a CZ75, P229 and my new 1911PD.
On the flip side if you live some place with say bear, where a bear could break into your house I would say get an AR and keep one of those .50 Beowulf uppers handy.
PS: better have some hearing protection hanging up if you go the AR-Route unless you like hearing loss.
I live in a condo so my bedside gun rotates between a CZ75, P229 and my new 1911PD.
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Lee McNelly
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12 ga side by side or 97 original
w 00 buck to keep the intruder out of the sancturary and a 45 of choice mine is either a colt commander or ruger old army
in s tx old folks have pres drugs, money, for ol leos guns sometimes
i am a man of history
w 00 buck to keep the intruder out of the sancturary and a 45 of choice mine is either a colt commander or ruger old army
in s tx old folks have pres drugs, money, for ol leos guns sometimes
i am a man of history
I was considering purchasing a Remington 870 but already have the P220.....wife has a P229. I'm also questioning why I want a second gun (any type), where I would keep it, etc. I know the 870 12ga with a 00 would cause greater trauma than a single round from a handgun, assuming it's not a instant kill shot, but logistics of multiple weapons does not seem feasible.
I read all the posts here so I know there are a few who seem to agree.....right?
I read all the posts here so I know there are a few who seem to agree.....right?