bead,ghost ring or rifle sights for home defense ?

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Buzzkill

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Hi all
I just wanted to get some opinions on which is the better option for home defense on a shotgun ,a plain old bead sight ,a ghost ring or rifle sights .

I was thinking about the bead sight and that it would be quicker to get on target with but Im open to suggestions .

Thanks
Buzzkill
 
At 20-30ft, the bead should be plenty. I know I've never had problems using it on falling plates at 10-15yds.

What you might want to consider is one of the fiber-optic or tritium beads, since it will likely not be full sunlight in the house when you need it.
 
For a true home defense gun, the bead is actually faster than any other sight, and it's speed that makes the shotgun so effective.

Unless you're planning on shooting slugs at a distance, the bead pretty well does everything you need.

With that said, I have Remington rifle sights on my Police gun, and I use them like a bead as a reference for "pointing" the gun.
 
on a hd shotgun any sight is useless, as are they on most shotguns. in a fight your not looking for a bead or a ring, just the problem. it came with a bead so most people think they need it, but with practice you will never even see it.
 
Yeah sure:rolleyes: Situation:' it's nightime with dim lighting and the perp has your wife by the waist standing behind her with a knife pressed to her throat. You are 20 feet away as he is shouting to drop the gun and not get closer.' Now all you pistol grip only, birdshot loving , no front sight dudes are gonna be sucking wind!:p better call 911 and pray!
Me I'll take the shot everytime with the Remington Tactical 1oz. at 1200fps slugs in my 18" rifle sighted Remington 870. I have for years , successfully, infront of audiences on Awerbucks 3 and 5 layer weavers and bobbers dummies course.:cool:
After a few years experience with tactical SG I think that I like Remington Rifle sights with the XS regular size tritium dot and the i express style tritium line. It seems to work better and quicker for me at night than a tritium ghost ring that I have on most of my guns. Many Depts. agree and put them on their 14" RS 870's that they keep stoked with slugs.:)
 
Beads work. They work faster than anything else. GR sights are not much alower, but sometimes life and death is determined in tiny increments of time and distance..
 
Bead is all you need. I have owned and been issued several bead-sighted riot guns that would drop a slug center-torso at 50-75 yards, if you were careful about your hold. The ones with the bead on a ramp have been the best, in my experience.
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Be sure you shoot the gun with whatever loads you intend to keep in it, at the range(s) which you may have to employ it. Scatterguns are a law unto themselves, and if any two of them pattern the same, and to the same POI, you can consider it a happy accident.
 
So who is taking the first shot at the perp holding the wife at 20 feet? Or is that an unrealistic scenario?:)
 
gordo, I sure hope it never happens to me. I did Louis' class this summer, he has a couple more diabolical refinements added to the 'hostage shot' now that I hadn't heard of previously. It really calls for threading the needle, and doing it fast and under pressure.

My eyes not being what they used to be, I prefer ghost rings on a dedicated defensive shotgun. I started working out with a bead sighted barrel before I took the class in May, planning to use that gun (the 1976 Wingmaster magnum I found earlier this year) in the class. I just couldn't get slugs to group with it the way i needed them to at 50 yards, my fault and not the gun or the ammo. With GRs I could pretty much keep the holes touching at 50 yards.

Choice of sights on a shotgun is one of those things that's really up to the individual shooter to determine. Every shooter's needs will vary, some can do fine with a bead (or even without one, I have seen a good many shotguns that were missing beads that didn't seem to bother the shooter at all). Others need more as far as sights go. For a mutipurpose gun that will be used with different barrels for different purposes, either a bead or rifle type open sights on the barrel are the best bet. For a dedicated defensive gun, all options are open. KISS is still the best bet IMO, whatever is the simplest system the shooter can get by with. I shoot essentially the same style aperture sights on both carbine and shotgun.

lpl/nc
 
a shotgun isn't a precision weapon weapon unless you put a rifled bbl on it, anything else is just pointing that way anyhow. i would never take a shot at a BG holding my wife with a shotgun, it just aint the tool for the job.
 
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