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BBC: Knives too pointy!

Doctors' kitchen knives ban call
A&E doctors are calling for a ban on long pointed kitchen knives to reduce deaths from stabbing.

A team from West Middlesex University Hospital said violent crime is on the increase - and kitchen knives are used in as many as half of all stabbings.

They argued many assaults are committed impulsively, prompted by alcohol and drugs, and a kitchen knife often makes an all too available weapon.

The research is published in the British Medical Journal.

The researchers said there was no reason for long pointed knives to be publicly available at all.

They consulted 10 top chefs from around the UK, and found such knives have little practical value in the kitchen.

None of the chefs felt such knives were essential, since the point of a short blade was just as useful when a sharp end was needed.

The researchers said a short pointed knife may cause a substantial superficial wound if used in an assault - but is unlikely to penetrate to inner organs.

In contrast, a pointed long blade pierces the body like "cutting into a ripe melon".

The use of knives is particularly worrying amongst adolescents, say the researchers, reporting that 24% of 16-year-olds have been shown to carry weapons, primarily knives.

The study found links between easy access to domestic knives and violent assault are long established.

French laws in the 17th century decreed that the tips of table and street knives be ground smooth.

A century later, forks and blunt-ended table knives were introduced in the UK in an effort to reduce injuries during arguments in public eating houses.

The researchers say legislation to ban the sale of long pointed knives would be a key step in the fight against violent crime.

"The Home Office is looking for ways to reduce knife crime.

"We suggest that banning the sale of long pointed knives is a sensible and practical measure that would have this effect."

Government response

Home Office spokesperson said there were already extensive restrictions in place to control the sale and possession of knives.

"The law already prohibits the possession of offensive weapons in a public place, and the possession of knives in public without good reason or lawful authority, with the exception of a folding pocket knife with a blade not exceeding three inches.

"Offensive weapons are defined as any weapon designed or adapted to cause injury, or intended by the person possessing them to do so.

"An individual has to demonstrate that he had good reason to possess a knife, for example for fishing, other sporting purposes or as part of his profession (e.g. a chef) in a public place.

"The manufacture, sale and importation of 17 bladed, pointed and other offensive weapons have been banned, in addition to flick knives and gravity knives."

A spokesperson for the Association of Chief Police Officers said: "ACPO supports any move to reduce the number of knife related incidents, however, it is important to consider the practicalities of enforcing such changes."
 
They consulted 10 top chefs from around the UK, and found such knives have little practical value in the kitchen.

Wonder who picked the "10 top chefs".

I think the Home Office should strike up raiding parties from the respective local Constablaries and raid the homes of the 10 chefs, and everyone else connected with the article - and see what they have in their kitchens.
 
I can see it now: next they'll be banning baseball bats, tennis rackets, and horror or horrors, PILLOWS! Yep, even a pillow can be used as a deadly weapon....cripes, when are these brits going to get a CLUE?! :rolleyes:
 
Old history ! Table knives have a rounded tip because of orders from a king [french I think] who wanted to stop knife fights at the table [probably drunks ]!!!
 
If all kitchen knives have their tips ground off, that'll force dumb criminals to learn how to sharpen knives themselves. Once they manage that, they'll probably sharpen the knife blade as well. Many kitchen knives are not very sharp to begin with.

Seems to me this "fix" may end up with criminals using knives with sharper points and sharper blades than they do now.
 
If this doesn't prove the NRA is right, nothing does. For YEARS they have issued the argument that people kill people. If you ban guns, people will use knives. And killings will still happen. And then the NRA said half jokingly, "will you then ban knives?"

This is why I became a lifetime member of the NRA last year.
 
*sigh*
When will we realize that evil people, not sharp objects, or firearms are the problem? My gun has never shot anyone. My kitchen knives have never stabbed anyone. You know why? Because I'm not the type of person to go out and kill another human. It has nothing to do with my gun, it's me.
 
OMG!!! That is so pathetic it is hilarious!!! (original topic guys, chill out)

Next on the agenda: Cricket bats... The lethal side.

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!
 
UN-freakin-believable. :barf:

Our constitution doesn't state "Right to keep and bear kitchen knives."

Not that all states uphold our constitutional right to keep and bear arms... so I suppose that's a moot point.

I think we're doomed unless Emeril, Martha, and the rest band together to establish the NKA (National Knife Association) whilst there's still time. ;)
 
Laugh all you want, but when it happens over there, you simply be hearing how well is is working for them, and we're not a very good first world country if we can't take simple measures to reduce crime like the UK has.
 
Jefnvk, you are absolutely right - I agree with you 100%. We need to take steps to reduce street crime in America.

America as a whole needs to do what Vermont has done - stop interfering with the people's right to bear arms. In Vermont, there is no permit to carry a gun - if you are a lawful citizen, you just carry it, period. As a result, Vermont has the lowest crime rate in the nation.

On the other hand, England has, for all practical purposes, disarmed its citizenry and outlawed self-defense by any means. After all, God forbid the thug kicking in your door or carjacking you should be hurt! The result? The Citizens of England are at the mercy of the criminal element. They are virtual prisoners in their own homes, knowing that if a thug breaks in on them, the thug has more protection from the homeowner courtest of "The Government" than the homeowner does.

Street crime is rampant in England; the lawful citizen is disarmed, the street thugs know it, and it's open season. Obviously, England's approach is a complete and total failure as far as reducing crime.

Put a firearm in the coat pocket or on the belt of every lawful citizen, and crime virtually stops, regardless of location. Do the opposite and crime skyrockets. John Lott's unimpeachible academic research has shown this to be the case over and over.

You want lower crime rates? It's very easy to achieve: Arm the lawful citizens.
 
Headline from the article:

LONDON, England (AP) -- Are there killers in your kitchen drawer?
Why, no. There are cutting tools in my kitchen drawer. They aren't alive, they don't move on their own, they are wood and metal. They do...nothing. They can't kill without the aid of a human. Interestingly, a human can kill without the aid of a kitchen knife, gun, rock, stick, car, bomb, chainsaw, pillow, pipe wrench, airliner, fountain pen, trophy, shovel, razor blade, etc. I wonder if the problem is evil humans, not evil objects...nah...too simple to be correct.
 
dasmi that's so true.

I mean they could substitute anything in that title to get the fear response from the sheeple:

LONDON, England (AP) -- Are there killers in your shower?
--- soap scum is slippery - be careful!

LONDON, England (AP) -- Are there killers in your garage?
--- Chain saws, lawnmowers, garden tools of all sorts, shovels - all deadly!

LONDON, England (AP) -- Are there killers in your refridgerator?
--- Gee, that pork has been dethawed for quite awhile. Ban pork!

LONDON, England (AP) -- Are there killers in your pocket?
--- Cellular phones cause brain tumors. Don't dial 911!

I could go on, but with the exception of soap scum, and salmonella - all these things are inanimate objects - none of which are killers. The idiots who use them for bad deeds are the killers.
 
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