Barrel leading...gone

Pappy John

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I bought two new revolvers in the last year in .44 caliber and out of the box I shot both using 250 gr Keith style cast bullets. It wasn't long before the leading in both barrels and cylinders forced me to buy one of those Lewis lead remover tools. Even if I only put eighteen rounds or so at a time downrange I was breaking this thing out during my cleaning process to clean out the rifling.

I got tired of that hoowah all the time, so when I ran low on those Keiths, I decided to try out plated bullets to lighten up on the cleaning chores somewhat. First I orders a 500 count box of 240 gr Rainiers.

They worked out well as far as the clean-up went....CLP on a brush and after dry patching the barrel was clean as a whistle. The only problem was the accuracy just wasn't quite there....bigger overall groups and the occasional wild unexplained flier. But I slogged through that box anyway. Then after hearing some good words about plated West Coast Bullets, I bought a box each of them in 240 and 200 gr. Pretty much the same deal....great to clean up after, but bigger groups than I remembered from cast bullets. And after recovering one of the crazy fliers, discovered that they were resulting from the plating peeling off the core in flight like a banana. I believe now that the peeling was my fault though....too much crimp. After loosening my crimp die up a bit the crazy ones went away, but the groups were still not satisfying.

After running through most of that pile I got a good deal on some more of my old favorite 250 gr cast Keiths and decide to go back to shooting them to get my old groups back....even with the extra cleaning they require.

COOL BEANS!!! Shooting all those plated slugs must have polished my barrels to the point that they aren't leading at all anymore. I've done 200 rounds each in the past few weeks and I see nothing in the grooves yet that requires the Lewis to come off the shelf. Even the forcing cones are staying much cleaner. Just a very little lead hanging to the cylinder bores. Exact same bullets as before. Same groups as before too.

I guess I could have saved some money by buying a tube of Bore Shine, but it was a nice surprise anyway. Now my guns clean easily.
 
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Yup, I have seen that too. Now if I get a new one that leads a bit with bullets that fit right I go right to the JB Bore paste and lap them a little. Even if I push a little hard or something and lead one up after lapping it comes out VERY easy. Smooth barrels are good barrels!!
 
Years ago I had a Ruger Security Six that leaded badly when I started shooting it new out-of-the-box. After one to two thousand rounds of mixed cast and jacketed bullets, it stopped leading.
 
Soft VS Hard Bullet Lubes

As a Star and Saeco Luber and Lewis Lead Remover dealer I have learned thaat for those who cast their own bullets among my customers those that use the old traditional NRA alox or Saeco lubes do not have to dig out their Lewis lead removers like the fellows do that use the new hard lubes.

The hard lubes seem to stay on the bullets rather than coat the bores.
 
Pappy John and others,

Thanks for tellin' the story. I think I can confess to you fellows, I have wanted to shoot lead bullets for years, but I have always hated "digging" that lead out after I shot my lead reloads. So I continued to shoot jacketed bullets and look longingly at many of the famous lead-bullet loads.

Now I realize that I might can try the lead bullets again since I have been shooting jacketed bullets for quite some time now. If it still leads, maybe I will try that JB Bore Paste, HSmith.

Thanks for some potentially really helpful info.

Any other suggestions to stop leading?
 
Unique is another good suggestion for reducing leading in my experience. I can't relate scientific facts but I do know that leading lessens or goes away with comparable loads when Unique is used in my guns. I think it has a lower flame temp, but I don't have even a shred of anything to back it up.

In this day and age most cast bullets are WAY too hard. Yup, too hard. Hard bullets don't get little dings on them in shipment, and if a little hard is good most consumers want LOTS of hard right? Stay away from the bullets over about 12-15 Brinnell unless you are shooting heavy magnum loadings. Magnum loadings are just fine with 15 Brinnell and unless extreme pressures like 454 Casull or Ruger only types are present in your handloads 15 is as hard a bullet as you will ever need. Bullets around 8-12 are right for most plinking and practice ammo, say 158's up to about 1150-1200 FPS in 357 Magnum for example. Softer bullets are more forgiving than harder bullets, and sizing is much less critical.

That is about all I can think of right now. Hope it helps.
 
HSmith - I have several pounds of Hercules Unique. I know, I have had it for a while. I am going to take all of these good suggestions and try lead bullets again. I think I may even have some bullets in the storeroom left over from the last attempt. I might have been trying for unreasonable velocities with lead, too. Following you counsel, I will try some moderate Unique loads, and see what happens.

Thanks for the suggestions, all.

Good shootin'
 
I've been using Universal Clays, which has a real close burn rate and charge range to Unique. I'll try the Unique next time I need to buy powder. Maybe I can up my velocities a bit and still have a clean barrel. Thanks.
 
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