Barr pleads the Fourth

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Barr pleads the Fourth
Representative fights proposed
search-and-seizure provisions

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By Patrick Poole
© 2000 WorldNetDaily.com


Members of Congress are expressing outrage after Department of Justice and FBI lobbyists tucked an unseen provision into an anti-drug bill that expands their power to conduct "black bag" jobs, allowing them to enter homes, conduct searches and seize certain items without telling anyone.

Congressional critics and civil liberty advocates are charging that the measure, part of the Methamphetamine Anti-Proliferation Act ( HR 2987, S. 486), would be in direct violation of the Fourth Amendment.

The bill, which was approved by the Senate on Nov. 19 by unanimous consent, is scheduled to be considered by the full House Judiciary Committee this morning. One committee member, Rep. Bob Barr, R-Ga., told WorldNetDaily that he intends to offer an amendment to remove the offending sections of the bill.

According to Barr, even though the changes would come from an anti-drug bill, the provisions in question would apply to virtually any search conducted by the federal government.

"This isn't dealing with just drug investigations; it changes the section in the U.S. Code that deals with federal warrant notice and inventory requirements," he said. "That's the primary reason I object to it, because it affects all criminal law."

Current law requires federal agents to announce their presence before entering a premise and to provide an inventory of confiscated items at the time that they are seized. But buried at the end of the "Defeat Meth Act" lies Section 6, entitled "Notice Clarification," which would allow searches of homes, vehicles and workplaces without any notice. The provision would also allow federal law enforcement officials to make copies of "intangible" items, such as computer drives and financial documents, for future examination without ever informing the person subject to the search that the items had been seized.

Another section of the bill would relieve agents from giving property owners subject to the secret searches an inventory of seized items -- leaving citizens completely blind to the government's actions.


"This bill would gut the Fourth Amendment, because how can a person challenge a warrant if they never find out about it until after the harm has been done?" questioned David Kopel, research director for the Independence Institute and a leading constitutional scholar.

Barr said he became aware of the bill's provisions late last week and began to contact other congressional members to organize an effort to strip out the offending portions when the bill comes before the Judiciary Committee for mark-up today. His efforts face an uphill battle because Rep. Chris Cannon, R-Utah, the bill's House sponsor, and Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, the chairman of the powerful Senate Judiciary Committee, are defending the provisions as necessary for law enforcement officials to conduct their duties.

He also said that he was surprised to learn that the exact same provisions were included in a bankruptcy reform bill, HR 833, that passed both houses earlier this year and is currently being considered by a conference committee.

"We're talking with the conference committee members to get it removed from the bankruptcy bill. They met on Thursday evening and discussed it," he said. "We're remaining hopeful, but nothing has been finalized yet."

Barr, a former federal prosecutor, also sharply criticized the Justice Department and FBI for burying the far-reaching measures in an unrelated bill.

"This is typical behavior from the DOJ and the FBI on these types of issues. Rather than having a fair and open hearing where members can weigh the proposal on its merits, they go to one of their allies in either house and have it slipped in a bill," he said. "That's certainly not the way to conduct business when you're dealing with people's civil liberties."

Kopel echoed those sentiments, saying that the FBI has difficulty trying to pass liberty-eroding legislation.

"They're sneaking it into a bill because they know it can't stand the scrutiny of public inquiry," said Kopel. "They understand the American public would not be happy if they found out that their civil liberties are under assault from the very people charged with defending the Constitution."

This is not the first time that the Justice Department has resorted to covert tactics to implement unpopular measures. In the last few hours of the 1994 session, for instance, Congress enacted the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act, which required telephone firms to configure their equipment to make it easier to wiretap the nation's communication systems. The law passed over strong opposition from civil liberties organizations after the FBI promised telephone companies $500 million to help pay for the equipment upgrades.

The FBI used a similar tactic in the last days of the 1998 session, when it was able to drop roving wiretap language into the Intelligence Authorization Act of 1999, authorizing law enforcement agencies to tap telephones used by or near targeted individuals rather than requiring authorization to tap specific phones. The insertion, made by Rep. Bill McCollum, R-Fla., happened during a conference committee after both houses had already voted on the bill, despite the fact that the very same measure had been rejected by both houses when it was offered as an amendment to the 1996 Anti-Terrorism bill.

Despite these setbacks, Kopel remains hopeful, yet cautious, as he sees an increasing awareness by citizens of the attacks on their constitutional rights.

"The defenders of civil liberties are more numerous and energetic than ever before, with the ability to reach out in broad coalitions across the conservative-liberal spectrum," he said, noting that the ACLU had joined in the fight against the "Defeat Met Act" provisions.

"If a man's home is his castle, this secret search provision is a tunnel under the moat," said Marv Johnson, legislative counsel for the ACLU's Washington, D.C., office.

Last week the ACLU and the National Association of Criminal Defense Attorneys sent a joint letter to members of the House Judiciary Committee requesting that the secret search provision be removed from the bill.

"It's a good thing that we're starting to see this groundswell," said Kopel, "because no president since Woodrow Wilson has been so hostile to civil liberties and the Constitution as Bill Clinton."



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John/az
"When freedom is at stake, your silence is not golden, it's yellow..." RKBA!
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This topic before Barr got involved is on an earlier post "secret bill to authorize secret searches". The amazing thing is that according to the Worldnet daily report it passed the Senate in November Unanimously! So much for the Senate looking after our rights. We have to ask, what else have they missed? We have got to get rid of this crowd and begin anew! VOTE, and be vigilant!
 
At least someone on the Hill is on it. Our massive amounts of letters on the subject must have caught their eyes.

Let's help them muster the forces to defeat this in the House.

Rick
 
The question has to be asked:

Have our elected representatives even READ the Constitution?

I'm absolutely serious. I'm convinced that there's a core of legislators that have no idea what it says, or they don't care. Either way, they're a danger to liberty.

Oh well, maybe it will hasten "the reckoning" if nothing else.
 
"According to Barr, even though the changes would come from an anti-drug bill, the provisions in question would apply to virtually any search conducted by the federal government.

'This isn't dealing with just drug investigations; it changes the section in the U.S. Code that deals with federal warrant notice and inventory requirements,' he said. 'That's the primary reason I object to it, because it affects all criminal law.'"

Rep. Barr has been a fine supporter of the RKBA. However, I'm disappointed when he feels that the Constitution can be ignored if we're discussing drugs. It is clear by the exchange above that he is one of those conservatives who apparently feels that no civil rights violation is too much if we're discussing drugs.

If you've liked the War on Drugs, you're gonna love the War on Guns.

Regards from AZ
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jack 99:
The question has to be asked:

Have our elected representatives even READ the Constitution?
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I don't even think they read the laws they vote for.
 
What really p*ss me is these spinelessrepublicans act like they have no idea where these provisions come from. It is almost like these things magically appear in the legislation.

If these kinds of things are necessary for better law enforcement against meth factories, then put in legislation that targets the specific offense. This BS of putting in broad brush provisions then saying, "You do not have to worry about law abiding citizens being blackbagged." The jokers need to be specific. Orin Hatch is turning into a spineless weenie who appears to be in well over his head.

I am tire, sick and tired of spinelessrepublicans debating how close to shave our freedoms. What I want is someone to stand up and say loud and clear, "No! That violates constitutional prohibitions against unreasonable search and seizure. I will not support it and I will work against any one who insists." That is what I want, but instead I get "powerful" spinelessrepublicans supporting Clinton initiatives.

Rant over! I feel much better now.

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Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.

Barry Goldwater--1964
 
Ledbetter has it right. There are way too many bills voted on in both houses of Congress that do not get read before the vote. At most, the synopsis might get read giving only the overall impression of what the bill is about. It is similar to each of us deciding on a local measure/initiative by only reading the one paragraph overview in the voters pamphlet.

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If you're not a little upset with the way the world is going, you're not paying attention.
 
I don't believe Evelyn Wood could read all the bills and amendments and suspensions of the rule of the bill's amendments to the bill of suspension to rule on the .... see what I mean? She'd be hard-pressed to get anywhere.
In comes the lobbyists, the assistants, etc. telling the Senators and Senatorettes what the bill is all about and what else can they do? They get secondhand info from people that 'spin' the documents, no matter who it may be. Getting a straight answer from a politician or a pol wannabe is practically impossible anyway.

If I may offer a partial, although a pretty good short-term solution: a one-year moratorium on ANY law, unless it is the disbanding of one or more government programs.

On the other hand, with all the millions of laws on the books, printed on pages amounting to almost all of Clancy's writings, if we are not already criminals, we are likely taking a dirt nap.

Someday I'll rant, but not yet.
 
BTT.

I am still in awe how few replies there have been.

Do we not care?

Do we wait for this as the moment to take up arms and take over the tyrants in our governemet?

Do we wait for the tyrants to throw us into ovens like Hitler did just 55 short years ago?

That paper called the Constitution is looking awefull thin to me these days. And, I don't normally think of myself as paranoid.

Sprig
 
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